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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Read it Conservative, of course money had to be initially put in to the fund, otherwise current retires (circa 1935) would have no benefits.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Read it Conservative, of course money had to be initially put in to the fund, otherwise current retires (circa 1935) would have no benefits.
    You don't have a clue as to what you are talking about, money has gone into the fund since inception with very little paid it. It never has been about current retirees not having the money, now it is about those "future" retirees whose money was wasted. Keep waiting for that lightbulb going off in your head. Looks like your electrical circuits have been burned out.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    When did you first learn that it was the Government's job to take care of you from cradle to grave?

    Yes, I ran a $200 million dollar a year company with over 1200 employees. I never taught them that it was the government's job to provide for them and that there weren't consequences for personal failure and poor choices made. Seems you never learned that.
    I don't have much problem with the base thought you state ... consequences of failure. My problem is when legislation is used to export and destroy prosperity ... which removes the ability of citizens to provide for themselves. Failure is much more about using government legislation to concentrate wealth and removes the ability of people to provide for their own needs. Pretty much any social net could be maintained either by private or public management ... given the bottom line is there to support it ... prosperity.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Read it Conservative, of course money had to be initially put in to the fund, otherwise current retires (circa 1935) would have no benefits.
    Better think, Pb. What also factors in is how our current REAL unemployment rate of over 16% is affecting the current SS. Fewer and fewer people are contributing more and more to the increasing ranks of those collecting. This is a Ponzi scheme. New investors (those working and paying into SS) are supporting those who have retired and are collecting. When more is needed by those collecting than those able to contribute, the Ponzi scheme becomes dead in the water or contributions from the few that are working to the many that are retired spirals into severe funding problems. That is where we are now.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    When do you think the republican party will start worrying more about the middle class and poor and less about pleasing thier corporate buddies, when do you think America and Americans will mean more to them then the dollars thier corporate buddies give to them?
    The White House's invited guests who will hear President Obama speak to Congress tonight about creating jobs for the common man include a CEO under fire for moving jobs to China and a mayor who recently built a six-foot wall around his mansion.

    Jeffrey Immelt, chairman of GE and head of the president's jobs council, tops the list of invited guests who will listen to Mr. Obama's speech from the first lady's box in the House chamber.


    Obama invites GE's Immelt to jobs speech - Washington Times

    WHen do you think anyone will?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    WHen do you think anyone will?
    When the middle class and poor can afford better lobbyists and can afford the to pay these folks to care?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    When the middle class and poor can afford better lobbyists and can afford the to pay these folks to care?
    The middle class and poor vote far and away outnumber the lobbyist vote.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    The middle class and poor vote far and away outnumber the lobbyist vote.
    Require less for their support. And give less money. Lobbyists earn their money.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    That's a strawman. What's fraudulent about it?
    Did I say there was anything fraudulent about it .? But surely someone with your even limit intelligence must realize that is exactly what it is .. and nothing more

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    There is no lie. I said he had airport security raised until the perceived theat had passed. You ask what Bush could have done ... he could have done that.
    Oh I see until the "perceived" threat had passed ..... what a joke .. .

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