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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Obama's results will be on the ballot, not your perception of what a nice person he is. Results matter, not rhetoric
    Yes, but the point is he didn't win Texas in '08, and he still won the election. He's not worried about winning Texas.

    I submit that he would have lost Texas no matter what his results were. He could have fixed the economy and balanced the budget while moonwalking across the Gulf of Mexico, and he would have lost Texas. There are blind partisans on both sides.


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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Ronald Reagan took over a SS system that was going broke, he raised FICA taxes to cover the shortfall and expected future Presidents to not use the surplus like Previous Presidents did. He was wrong just like you are wrong now
    Anybody got a breakdown of which admins/congresses dipped into the SS trust funds and for how much? Sounds like the same old "starve the beast" bs that been playing out for the last 30 years or so. Spend every penny you can, then point to the empty piggy bank as a reason to cut spending, pass out the savings in tax cuts, repeat until govt goes completely broke and all those annoying social programs die on the vine.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Reagan had no way of knowing that future Presidents would use the SS surplus if any to fund other programs. When are you going to understand that your SS money is gone, being used to pay my SS? Thank you. Tell that to your kids or maybe even you when you are old enough to collect SS and after taking advantage of that Payroll Tax cut Obama announced tonight. Interesting how liberals are the ones cutting SS with that tax cut.
    Blah, blah, Obama, blah blah....

    You said Reagan was wrong. That's priceless.


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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Reagan had no way of knowing that future Presidents would use the SS surplus if any to fund other programs. When are you going to understand that your SS money is gone, being used to pay my SS? Thank you. Tell that to your kids or maybe even you when you are old enough to collect SS and after taking advantage of that Payroll Tax cut Obama announced tonight. Interesting how liberals are the ones cutting SS with that tax cut.
    Just more of the same good cop/bad cop crap we've been seeing for years on behalf of monied interests.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Anybody got a breakdown of which admins/congresses dipped into the SS trust funds and for how much? Sounds like the same old "starve the beast" bs that been playing out for the last 30 years or so. Spend every penny you can, then point to the empty piggy bank as a reason to cut spending, pass out the savings in tax cuts, repeat until govt goes completely broke and all those annoying social programs die on the vine.
    Every President BUT Reagan has taken money from SS and put it on budget. SS was never created to have the surplus put on the budget and then spent. tha tis why there are trillions of IOU's now. Any idea what SS benefits are going to be worth when the SS IOU's are cashed in with borrowed or printed money?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Ronald Reagan took over a SS system that was going broke, he raised FICA taxes to cover the shortfall and expected future Presidents to not use the surplus like Previous Presidents did. He was wrong just like you are wrong now
    So, you're saying Reagan didn't "steal" money from Social Security?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Blah, blah, Obama, blah blah....

    You said Reagan was wrong. That's priceless.
    Rocket, from what I could see from your posts there is only one person in this world that is perfect. Congratulations, you are that person. Reagan wasn't perfect, but he sure beat everyone since and most before. His economic policy changed the political spectrum and instilled a sense of pride in all Americans, something that liberals to this day cannot stand. Reagan talked about American exceptionalism and promoted individual wealth creation making people feel great about themselves and challenged them to be better than they could be. That incentive paid off a booming economy and great individual wealth creation

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Every President BUT Reagan has taken money from SS and put it on budget. SS was never created to have the surplus put on the budget and then spent. tha tis why there are trillions of IOU's now. Any idea what SS benefits are going to be worth when the SS IOU's are cashed in with borrowed or printed money?
    They have treasury securities. What would you suggest they invest in?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    So, you're saying Reagan didn't "steal" money from Social Security?
    Not that I can find, SS fund was going broke at the time due to past Presidents using the money. It was running out of cash thus the increase in FICA taxes, you know, those taxes now being cut by "your" President

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    They have treasury securities. What would you suggest they invest in?
    Check out what insurance companies invest in. Treasury securities have to be converted to cash so here is that cash coming from?

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