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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Look, I think there is plenty of blame to go around, including before he took office. But it simply isn't unreasonable to think he could have been working on improving security and being concerned about an attack. There were warnings.
    Did you even read the PDB he was referring to ... if not go read it . .tell Me what should have been done with the excellent intel in there

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Sure, uh-huh. <sarcasm>It's perfectly reasonable to not lift a finger to raise airport security to at least try to prevent a hijacking</sarcasm> after reading:

    Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings ...


    And that was just one warning.

    "THE SYSTEM WAS BLINKING RED"

    Tenet told us that in his world “the system was blinking red.” By late July, Tenet said, it could not “get any worse.”30 Not everyone was convinced. Some asked whether all these threats might just be deception. On June 30, the SEIB contained an article titled “Bin Ladin Threats Are Real.”Yet Hadley told Tenet in July that Deputy Secretary of Defense PaulWolfowitz questioned the reporting. Perhaps Bin Ladin was trying to study U.S. reactions.Tenet replied that he had already addressed the Defense Department’s questions on this point; the reporting was convincing.To give a sense of his anxiety at the time, one senior official in the Counterterrorist Center told us that he and a colleague were considering resigning in order to go public with their concerns.31

    - Chapter 8, 9.11 Commission

    http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/pdf/sec8.pdf



    WTF?? Who do you think he's talking abouit when he said they evaluated our response to the WTC93, blowing up the embassies, and bombing the U.S.S. Cole?? Who do you think is responsible for responding to those attacks if not the president? Who do you think Bush was speaking about if not Clinton? Mickey Mouse?




    Spits the poster who just said Bush didn't "name Clinton," even though Bush was talking about him.

    Yeah well .. I'll let others read this PDB that you are talking about and decide .. . now that the lies you set forth are out of the way ...

    Example ….. yes it mentioned NY … her is the text from the PDB “A clandestine source said in 1998 that a Bin Ladin cell in New York was recruiting Muslim American youth for attacks”

    Now for that about the only thing I could see being done, was going into New York and begin to arrest Muslim American youths ….. I'm sure that would have gone over real big with the screaming liberals .

    Example.. It did mention possible hijackings

    here is how it mentioned those hijackings. Again directly from the PDB “We have NOT been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a (blacked out source) service in 1998 saying that Bin Ladin wanted to hijack a US aircraft to gain the release of Blind Shaykh Umar Abd al Rahman and other US held extremists”

    Like I said .. I encourage everyone to read the damn PDB and see how far the truth was stretched in his post.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How does Iraq affect what is going on right now and the fact that we have a net job loss since this President took office?
    With all due respect (I'm kidding of course), most of those job losses were due to the Great Bush Recession.

    BTW, did you see the Republican debate last night, what a pathetic bunch. My favorite line was when your governor said to Romney that Dukakis created 3 times the number of jobs he did. I laughed my butt off.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    <sarcasm>Isn't Wesley Clark a flaming Librul?</sarcasm>
    This Wesley Clark?

    TWO WEEKS BEFORE CONGRESS PASSED THE IRAQ CONGRESSIONAL RESOLUTION WESLEY CLARK MADE THE CASE FOR WAR; TESTIFIED THAT SADDAM HAD 'CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS'

    Less than 18 months ago, Wesley Clark offered his testimony before the Committee On Armed Services at the U.S. House Of Representatives.

    "There's no requirement to have any doctrine here. I mean this is simply a longstanding right of the United States and other nations to take the actions they deem necessary in their self defense," Clark told Congress on September 26, 2002.

    "Every president has deployed forces as necessary to take action. He's done so without multilateral support if necessary. He's done so in advance of conflict if necessary. In my experience, I was the commander of the European forces in NATO. When we took action in Kosovo, we did not have United Nations approval to do this and we did so in a way that was designed to preempt Serb ethnic cleansing and regional destabilization there. There were some people who didn' t agree with that decision. The United Nations was not able to agree to support it with a resolution."

    Clark to Congress 9-26-02 "There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we."
    More Clark: "And, I want to underscore that I think the United States should not categorize this action as preemptive. Preemptive and that doctrine has nothing whatsoever to do with this problem. As Richard Perle so eloquently pointed out, this is a problem that's longstanding. It's been a decade in the making. It needs to be dealt with and the clock is ticking on this."

    Clark explained: "I think there's no question that, even though we may not have the evidence as Richard [Perle] says, that there have been such contacts [between Iraq and al Qaeda]. It' s normal. It's natural. These are a lot of bad actors in the same region together. They are going to bump into each other. They are going to exchange information. They're going to feel each other out and see whether there are opportunities to cooperate. That's inevitable in this region, and I think it's clear that regardless of whether or not such evidence is produced of these connections that Saddam Hussein is a threat."

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    With all due respect (I'm kidding of course), most of those job losses were due to the Great Bush Recession.

    BTW, did you see the Republican debate last night, what a pathetic bunch. My favorite line was when your governor said to Romney that Dukakis created 3 times the number of jobs he did. I laughed my butt off.
    As was most of the Obama spending that did nothing but add to the debt thus his very low JAR and 70% disapproval rating on handling the economy.

    as for the debt, Romney and Perry created more jobs than Obama ever created so laugh your butt off at that!

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post

    here is how it mentioned those hijackings. Again directly from the PDB “We have NOT been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a (blacked out source) service in 1998 saying that Bin Ladin wanted to hijack a US aircraft to gain the release of Blind Shaykh Umar Abd al Rahman and other US held extremists”

    Like I said .. I encourage everyone to read the damn PDB and see how far the truth was stretched in his post.
    Perhaps it's just your reading comprehension that is the problem? The PDB didn't say the FBI couldn't corroborate a potential hijacking, it read they couldn't corroborate a potential hijacking for the purpose of using a hijacking to gain the release of other Muslim extremists, incarcerated by the U.S. as was thought back in 1998.

    This is painfully obvious as the very next words read:



    Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings ...


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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Did you even read the PDB he was referring to ... if not go read it . .tell Me what should have been done with the excellent intel in there
    Great point, can you imagine the outrage Democrats would have against Bush coming off the closest election in U.S. History had he taken the post 9/11 approach to a pre 9/11 world based upon the intelligence we had at the time? Bush wasn't liked then and would have been blasted as trying to scare the public to gain support after that election. I can here Sheik now, Bush scares people to overcome stealing the election!

    Wonder what action Sheik and Boo believe should have been taken that would have prevented 9/11 and could have been implemented in the short period of time between January 21, 2001 and Sept. 11?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Great point, can you imagine the outrage Democrats would have against Bush coming off the closest election in U.S. History had he taken the post 9/11 approach to a pre 9/11 world based upon the intelligence we had at the time? Bush wasn't liked then and would have been blasted as trying to scare the public to gain support after that election. I can here Sheik now, Bush scares people to overcome stealing the election!

    Wonder what action Sheik and Boo believe should have been taken that would have prevented 9/11 and could have been implemented in the short period of time between January 21, 2001 and Sept. 11?
    Wellll, they had intel of a couple guys training to fly but not land jets. I bet following them around, tapping their phones, bugging their homes would have gone a long way without telling the American people anything.

    And did anybody ever find out whether the civil air defense drill on 9/11 was scheduled before or after the hijackers bought their tickets? I've always wondered about that one, and the story about this aspect has morphed in every documentary I've seen.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Wellll, they had intel of a couple guys training to fly but not land jets. I bet following them around, tapping their phones, bugging their homes would have gone a long way without telling the American people anything.

    And did anybody ever find out whether the civil air defense drill on 9/11 was scheduled before or after the hijackers bought their tickets? I've always wondered about that one, and the story about this aspect has morphed in every documentary I've seen.
    What violation of your civil liberties would you have supported based upon the intelligence we had at the time coming off that close election of 2000? Not sure they had the intelligence information of guys training to fly but not land jets until after 9/11. Didn't know that was against the law in order to get a wire tapping order?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As was most of the Obama spending that did nothing but add to the debt thus his very low JAR and 70% disapproval rating on handling the economy.

    as for the debt, Romney and Perry created more jobs than Obama ever created so laugh your butt off at that!
    More of your total BS "lies"

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