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Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'

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Apparently, Carson has guidance. If you are a poor country boy just trying to get elected

Democrat Byrd joined an organization who had absolutely no problem hanging a person of color to include someone who voluntarily served this country during WWII. That is who he is and that is who he will forever be. He cannot absolve himself of that organizations core beliefs anymore than can he bring its victims back to life.

But, as Clinton said, Byrd joined the KKK in order to get elected. An amazing excuse, and especially telling when it comes from a President who was himself impeached.

Until Americans hold their politicians to higher standards, no matter what the party, the country will continue its decline.
 
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OMG instate third or unlimited terms, I want clinton back now.

Anyways...

Im listening to a malcom X speech. Are you all familiar with the term House Negro? This guy is like super george carlin awesomeman.

You want the return of an impeached President who defended a member of the KKK?

Are you serious or being ironic?
 
I did. And I ask again...WHEN did the term Tar Baby go from the meaning ascribed in the Uncle Remus story to being a racist term that people like you use to justify your bigotry against an entire group of people?

The same day that it became racist to criticize any and everything that a black person does.

Uncle Remus stories are racist, for that matter.
 
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OMG instate third or unlimited terms, I want clinton back now.

Anyways...

Im listening to a malcom X speech. Are you all familiar with the term House Negro? This guy is like super george carlin awesomeman.

For the sake of clarity, are you calling Malcom X, awesome?
 
there are 60 Republicans in the Tea Party Caucus:



I want to know which ones above wish to see lynchings come back, and I would like to see the evidence presented therein.




Mind you, no one will be able to do it. Because there isn't any. Because such a thing would be a massive scandal, and the Republican Party would kick them out.


And, in fact, Representative Carson is just spewing vile vitriol out of his a$$. I guess liberals got so used to spewing this kind of crap against George Bush they assumed they could do it to the Tea Partiers without ever getting called out on it.


Well, Carson, let me introduce you to Tea Party Member Representative West. You may find him a little less.... pacifist.

Colonel West! He's the one that wants to see lynchings come back into style! :lamo
 
Ever hear of Brer Rabbit? Read the whole, "Brer Rabbit and The Tar Baby", story? Disney made a cartoon of it.

Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby - YouTube

This is just another case of Liberals totally misunderstanding historical context.

I'm well aware of where the term comes from (I was a toddler learning how to read at one point). Nonetheless, the phrase is still widely known to have racial connotations.
 
I'm well aware of where the term comes from (I was a toddler learning how to read at one point). Nonetheless, the phrase is still widely known to have racial connotations.
How about "known by some"...
 
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Every company is different, but they are all variations on the same base line and its all very structured

Lets say, you have to rank 100 employees in a stack. Top of the stack is the highest performing employees, bottom is the lowest (dragging their ass) performing employees. So the management team gets in a huddle and spends a day creating this stack. This stack has serious implications. In any pay for performance, the top ~20% of the employees will receive raises, while the bottom 5% (sometimes up to 20% depending on business conditions) will be placed in some version of corrective action. Also lay-offs, when necessary will come from the bottom of the stack. Now after all that, you have to identify the protected classes (a black woman as an example) in the stack and redistribute the stack so you don't have any protected classes in the bottom 20% and so that they are well represented in the top 20% of the stack.

This sort of thing goes on when determining pay, lay-offs, contract allocation, pretty much anything that has anything to do with differentiating employees or even companies bidding on a contract. It's huge and it's just the way business is done. The objective is to play it so ****ing safe that a protected class individual (or company owned by a protected class individual) doesn't have any reason to sue your company.

I had to spend a few minutes hunting down your comment because it immediately sprung to mind as I was reading this report from the New York Times:


Several Columbia University professors said this week that the recent resignations of two high-ranking black administrators have shaken their confidence in the institution’s president, Lee C. Bollinger, and reignited concerns among their colleagues about other aspects of his leadership​


This is the kind of crap that happens when liberals create a hyper-racialized environment, and Bollinger is a crapsack who deserves all that is being dumped on him because he's been so very instrumental in creating the damaged environment.


Dr. Harris said that he wrote to Mr. Bollinger this week to explain how the departures “have shaken my confidence — as well as the confidence of many others at Columbia — in the ability of Columbia to maintain diverse leadership at the top.”​


When token blacks leave a job then that implies that the leadership of an institution can't maintain its commitment to diversity. First off, diversity is not a virtue, and secondly, when you treat individuals as token representatives for their racial group, then you completely devalue their individuality. People leave jobs all the time, but when two blacks leave their jobs then all hell breaks loose.


June Cross, an associate professor at the university’s Graduate School of Journalism, said in an interview on Wednesday, “I’m not saying race is the issue, but it is the subtext.” She added, “Michele Moody-Adams was advertised as, ‘Here’s our commitment to diversity.’ If you’re not going to stand behind what you say you hired her to do, what does that say about your commitment?”​


What the hell does race being a subtext even mean? That's innuendo for racism but the professor doesn't have the balls to flat-out make the accusation so she tries to put lipstick on the pig and muddy up her statement.

Now look at the second part of her declaration. A black person was put into a job as a show of the institution's commitment to diversity. Clearly the individual wasn't working out but this professor would have the institution keep an ineffective black person on the job because to fire them would signal that the institution doesn't value diversity.


Such criticisms are unusual for Mr. Bollinger, who built a national reputation defending affirmative action cases at the University of Michigan, and who has brought more minority students and faculty members to Columbia’s campus in Morningside Heights. In an interview Thursday, he acknowledged the criticism but said it was off base.

“While some may perceive an issue of diversity involved here in both resignations, I’m confident that that’s not either the explanation, nor is it in any way a reflection of the institution’s commitment to diversity,” Mr. Bollinger said. “It’s certainly not mine, in any event.”​


This nicely shows why Bollinger is so deserving of this criticism. He earned his reputation as a crapweasel for accusing other institutions of being racist and now that the accusations are leveled at him he claims that the criticisms were off-base. Well you know, his holier-than-thou criticisms of other people and institutions were similarly off-base.


“If I were in the shoes of the faculty member I would have the same concern,” Dr. Steele said. “You have to take events like this seriously. But this had nothing to do with my identity or the provost’s office; it had to do with this opportunity at Stanford at this time of my life. I have the strongest feelings for Columbia.”​


Even the professor who left Columbia to accept an administrative position at Stanford is mired in the perverted group-think of liberals. Why does anyone have to take these events seriously? Blacks administrators leaving to accept another position are no different than white administrators or Asian administrators doing the same.

When ric27 writes of corporate management being hypersensitive about their "workforce diversity" numbers it is this type of atmosphere that I think he is writing about. It's just sickening to behold.
 
there are 60 Republicans in the Tea Party Caucus:

Sandy Adams, Florida
Robert Aderholt, Alabama
Todd Akin, Missouri
Rodney Alexander, Louisiana
Michele Bachmann, Minnesota, Chair
Roscoe Bartlett, Maryland
Joe Barton, Texas
Gus Bilirakis, Florida
Rob Bishop, Utah
Diane Black, Tennessee
Michael C. Burgess, Texas
Paul Broun, Georgia
Dan Burton, Indiana
John Carter, Texas
Bill Cassidy, Louisiana
Howard Coble, North Carolina
Mike Coffman, Colorado
Chip Cravaack, Minnesota
Ander Crenshaw, Florida
John Culberson, Texas
Jeff Duncan, South Carolina
Blake Farenthold, Texas
Stephen Fincher, Tennessee
John Fleming, Louisiana
Trent Franks, Arizona
Phil Gingrey, Georgia
Louie Gohmert, Texas
Vicky Hartzler, Missouri
Wally Herger, California
Tim Huelskamp, Kansas
Lynn Jenkins, Kansas
Steve King, Iowa
Doug Lamborn, Colorado
Jeff Landry, Louisiana
Blaine Luetkemeyer, Missouri
Kenny Marchant, Texas
Tom McClintock, California
David McKinley, West Virginia
Gary Miller, California
Mick Mulvaney, South Carolina
Randy Neugebauer, Texas
Rich Nugent, Florida
Steve Pearce, New Mexico
Mike Pence, Indiana
Ted Poe, Texas
Tom Price, Georgia
Denny Rehberg, Montana
Phil Roe, Tennessee
Dennis Ross, Florida
Ed Royce, California
Steve Scalise, Louisiana
Tim Scott, South Carolina
Pete Sessions, Texas
Adrian Smith, Nebraska
Lamar Smith, Texas
Cliff Stearns, Florida
Tim Walberg, Michigan
Joe Walsh, Illinois
Allen West, Florida
Lynn Westmoreland, Georgia
Joe Wilson, South Carolina

I want to know which ones above wish to see lynchings come back, and I would like to see the evidence presented therein.

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I'm well aware of where the term comes from (I was a toddler learning how to read at one point). Nonetheless, the phrase is still widely known to have racial connotations.

Only because there are so many idiots in the world that think Uncle Remus stories are racist.
 
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Are you asking Andre Carson because I'm pretty sure he's the one who made the claim and I'm also pretty sure he doesn't have an account here?
 
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The only way to get people who don't want to be married to each other to get married is force unless you're arguing for huge structural changes in the black community, but then that goes far beyond marriage making conditions other than marriage the focus of your argument.

yes and no. the point of bringing up that statistic is to demonstrate (again) that the main problems aren't with our political structure (except inasmuch as it encourages poor decision-making), but rather within the black community. If blacks want to succeed in America again, then they need to recapture their identity and their culture. Lower income whites are facing many of the same problems.

1. Finish High School.
2. Work full time and work hard
3. Wait until you are married to have kids, and then stay married.

Following those three basics in America, statistically, almost ensures that you will not enter into or at least remain in poverty - and the extent to which a society fails to encourage or honor those basics (and the trends that lay behind them) is the extent to which it will fail. In black society today, students are told that education is a "white thing", that working hard in an introductory level position "is for suckers", and that your manliness can be measured by your number of "baby-mommas". These things aren't only found in the black community, but they are strong there, and have done immeasurable harm.
 
Are you asking Andre Carson because I'm pretty sure he's the one who made the claim and I'm also pretty sure he doesn't have an account here?

I'm asking any who would rise to his defense rather than agreeing to the false nature of his charge.
 
I'm asking any who would rise to his defense rather than agreeing to the false nature of his charge.
I neither defend him nor will agree to the false nature of his charge. The idea that it must be one or the other is both ridiculous and based in a denial of our own ignorance of the thoughts of people we don't know.
 
Isn't about time we moved past such vile, angry bull****?

Oh wait, I can't say that about the esteemed Rep. Carson, to criticize him, since I am a white male and tea partier, is racist.

Just reading that filthy dung heaps rant makes my stomach churn in disgust.

Well yeah, but how often do we liberals hear generalizations from Conservatives? How many times must we be called "freeloaders" "lazy" "give me's" "feminazis" and "baby killers" before Conservatives "move past such vile, angry bull****?"
I can tell conservatives all day long that I'm NONE of those things ... but it doesn't seem to make a lick of difference to them.

So, suck it up and get over it.
 
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I neither defend him nor will agree to the false nature of his charge. The idea that it must be one or the other is both ridiculous and based in a denial of our own ignorance of the thoughts of people we don't know.

he stated that he is aware of tea party members of congress who want to see black people hanging from trees. now, whether or not there are tea partiers in congress who want to see black people hanging from trees is a rather binary question; either they do, or they do not. We might as well run with the assumption that all democrats in congress secretly want to rape children as adopt the standard for Tea Partiers that you are suggesting.
 
he stated that he is aware of tea party members of congress who want to see black people hanging from trees. now, whether or not there are tea partiers in congress who want to see black people hanging from trees is a rather binary question; either they do, or they do not. We might as well run with the assumption that all democrats in congress secretly want to rape children as adopt the standard for Tea Partiers that you are suggesting.

The chances of a tea party member wanting blacks hanging from a tree is far less remote in the grand cosmic scheme of things. Also, 'wanting blacks hanging from a tree' is an inflammatory statement that is not literal.
 
The chances of a tea party member wanting blacks hanging from a tree is far less remote in the grand cosmic scheme of things.

the "grand cosmic scheme of things"? really? you are debating from the "grand cosmic scheme of things"? why not just admit that the guy is a big-mouthed a--clown who prefers to campaign on race-baiting?

Also, 'wanting blacks hanging from a tree' is an inflammatory statement that is not literal.

no, that's a very specific statement. you don't accuse someone of intent to commit murder unless you have some kind of evidence of their intent to commit murder.
 
the "grand cosmic scheme of things"? really? you are debating from the "grand cosmic scheme of things"? why not just admit that the guy is a big-mouthed a--clown who prefers to campaign on race-baiting?

Probably is :shrug:


no, that's a very specific statement. you don't accuse someone of intent to commit murder unless you have some kind of evidence of their intent to commit murder.

Rep. Andre Carson, a Democrat from Indiana who serves as the CBC’s chief vote counter, said at a CBC event in Miami that some in Congress would “love to see us as second-class citizens” and “some of them in Congress right now of this tea party movement would love to see you and me ... hanging on a tree.”

"The tea party wishes to implement a plan to instigate random lynchings nationwide" is an accusation. This was not quite that. Some could take it as 'hung out to dry' if we were to stretch things perhaps.



Theres the audio clip and someone elses podcast commentary, kind of a good one actually. After listening Im not sure if I take the statement as completely literal... thered be a little more fire in the room if that were true.
 
I neither defend him nor will agree to the false nature of his charge. The idea that it must be one or the other is both ridiculous and based in a denial of our own ignorance of the thoughts of people we don't know.

There are no false charges here. What he said is totally uncalled for out of a member of Congress.
 
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Are you saying that employers aren't responsible for their own actions?
What actions would those be?
 
Theres the audio clip and someone elses podcast commentary, kind of a good one actually. After listening Im not sure if I take the statement as completely literal... thered be a little more fire in the room if that were true.
So...for the record...liberals lose their ****ing minds when someone uses a vague term like "tar baby", but...meh...Im sure it was only just mild rheotic when he accused Tea Party republicans of wanting to lych blacks and see folks hanging fromt he trees. Certainly nothing to get spun up out.
 
I would say that the remarks by the Dem Congresspeople were over the top and they should retract them and apologize. And at the same time, there is pretty strong evidence that the Tea Party counts a disproportionate number of racists on its dance card.
 
I would say that the remarks by the Dem Congresspeople were over the top and they should retract them and apologize. And at the same time, there is pretty strong evidence that the Tea Party counts a disproportionate number of racists on its dance card.

Then provide that evidence or stfu. I provided evidence of liberal progressives infiltraiting events to intentionally smear tea party members. I guess you ignore that.


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