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Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'

I never did see an answer to my question about we call a group that only allows admittance based upon being the proper color.
 
1Perry said:
I never did see an answer to my question about we call a group that only allows admittance based upon being the proper color.
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oooh! oooh! I'll take that one on.

The answer is: racists
 
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teamosil said:
I know this is kind of counter-intuitive, but yeah, that's true. Overall the market gives whites a massive preference. If a white job applicant and a black job applicant apply for exactly the same job with exactly the same resume, the white applicant is a shocking 2.4 times more likely to get called up for an interview. That is a massive, overwhelming, disadvantage blacks face, and advantage whites get, just because of the color of their skin. So, programs designed to give preference to minorities are only a small, inadequate, step to counter balance that. They don't amount to giving blacks an advantage overall, they just amount to dialing the advantage whites are given and the disadvantage blacks are given back a bit. Say maybe without those programs overall whites would be getting called up for interviews 2.5 times as much instead of 2.4 times as much. So, they make the system overall less racially biased, so yeah, whatever the good motives, opposing those programs is supporting the continuation of a racist system.
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Isn't the 'support this government policy or you're a racist' shtick getting a little old?
 
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Grant said:
Isn't the 'support this government policy or you're a racist' shtick getting a little old?
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Not as long as there are scumbags that will spread it and enough morons to buy into it...no.

And hey...how about that more polite rhetoric...

****ing douchebags...every one of them.
 
1Perry said:
I never did see an answer to my question about we call a group that only allows admittance based upon being the proper color.
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that's because your question does not contain critical information, such as "does this group vote Democrat?"
 
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Grant said:
Isn't the 'support this government policy or you're a racist' shtick getting a little old?
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it's been old for some time. that's why "THAT'S RACIST" has become a punchline.

odd how people who argue these stats never mention that whites actually do poorly compared to asians. I have yet to see anyone argue that what is needed is some kind of legal system to hold back asian immigrants in favor of native whites based on the asian communities' superior performance. :thinking:
 
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RiverDad said:
In principle I'm fine with the proposal but if you're setting out to propose a Entente Cordiale then you shouldn't spit in my face as you make the offer. You've been trying to return back to me my writing throughout this whole episode and what you've been doing is demonstrating your own lack of comprehension.
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I was not limiting my statement there to this discussion.
 
1Perry said:
I never did see an answer to my question about we call a group that only allows admittance based upon being the proper color.
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at best, we'd call them racial discriminatory groups, or racial exclusionary groups.

in laymen's terms, we'd call them racist.

and , yes, the CBC fits the bill.
 
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cpwill said:
it's been old for some time. that's why "THAT'S RACIST" has become a punchline.

odd how people who argue these stats never mention that whites actually do poorly compared to asians. I have yet to see anyone argue that what is needed is some kind of legal system to hold back asian immigrants in favor of native whites based on the asian communities' superior performance. :thinking:
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Whats amazing is the greatest historical metamorphosis and lie is the transformation of the Democratic Party from the perpetrator of this nation's most racist policies to protector of minorities.

Just ask the average African-American which party Lincoln belonged to, or which party Martin Luther King was a member of, and they'll tell you, almost without fail, that both men were Dems. They'll also tell you that the Republicans led the filibuster against the civil rights bills (actually, I believe that was Robert Byrd...), or who came up with the Jim Crow laws, and they'll tell you, without a single qualm, that it was the Reps.


Un****ingbelievable!
 
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well, that leads us right back into a discussion on the failed (or, perhaps, given the above information, maybe not failed - just working off a different set of goals) public education system, particularly as it is available to urban minorities.
 
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ric27 said:
Whats amazing is the greatest historical metamorphosis and lie is the transformation of the Democratic Party from the perpetrator of this nation's most racist policies to protector of minorities.

Just ask the average African-American which party Lincoln belonged to, or which party Martin Luther King was a member of, and they'll tell you, almost without fail, that both men were Dems. They'll also tell you that the Republicans led the filibuster against the civil rights bills (actually, I believe that was Robert Byrd...), or who came up with the Jim Crow laws, and they'll tell you, without a single qualm, that it was the Reps.


Un****ingbelievable!
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Did you forget to study the history of the Republican Party?

Lincoln's Republican Party is NOT by any stretch of the imagination the Republican Party of today. Moreover, the Democratic Party and Republican Party of the 1960s are NOT at all the Dem and Rep Parties of today - as I've said several times, the constituencies of the parties switched during the civil rights movements with the racist southern Dems moving to the Republican Party. Every time you repeat this myth, you reveal your ignorance. Study your history!
 
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cpwill said:
well, that leads us right back into a discussion on the failed (or, perhaps, given the above information, maybe not failed - just working off a different set of goals) public education system, particularly as it is available to urban minorities.
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The only evidence of failed education I've seen in this thread is in the the failure of public education to teach Republicans about the history of their party.
 
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theplaydrive said:
The only evidence of failed education I've seen in this thread is in the the failure of public education to teach Republicans about the history of their party.
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Wait, what? The history of which party?

Oh my! This is going to another one of those awesome moments.
 
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apdst said:
Wait, what? The history of which party?
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Damn those public schools!
 
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AdamT said:
Damn those public schools!
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Yeah. Damn those public schools.

Tell us all about the history of the Republican Party. I can't ****ing wait!
 
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theplaydrive said:
Did you forget to study the history of the Republican Party?

Lincoln's Republican Party is NOT by any stretch of the imagination the Republican Party of today. Moreover, the Democratic Party and Republican Party of the 1960s are NOT at all the Dem and Rep Parties of today - as I've said several times, the constituencies of the parties switched during the civil rights movements with the racist southern Dems moving to the Republican Party. Every time you repeat this myth, you reveal your ignorance. Study your history!
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Horse****. Robert Byrd was your missing link. Democrat racist Klan leader...democrat senator. This pretend story about...but really...it just all of a sudden switched over...is just that...a bull**** pretend story and it only works for people stupid enough to buy it and people invested in believing in it.
 
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theplaydrive said:
Did you forget to study the history of the Republican Party?

Lincoln's Republican Party is NOT by any stretch of the imagination the Republican Party of today. Moreover, the Democratic Party and Republican Party of the 1960s are NOT at all the Dem and Rep Parties of today - as I've said several times, the constituencies of the parties switched during the civil rights movements with the racist southern Dems moving to the Republican Party. Every time you repeat this myth, you reveal your ignorance. Study your history!
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That's ****ing bull****!

The only thing that changed about the Democrat party is the tactics. The Democrats figured out that it's easier and cheaper to keep blacks on welfare than it is to keep them on the plantation and they get a bunch of votes out of it, to boot.

As far as the Republicans are concerned; we're still trying to abolish slavery.
 
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Grant said:
Isn't the 'support this government policy or you're a racist' shtick getting a little old?
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I don't see how we could stop trying to fight racism until equally qualified black and hispanic people have odds of getting jobs at least in the same ballpark as equally qualified white people. The fight to end racism doesn't end when some conservative white people get bored of it, it ends when there is racial equality.
 
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teamosil said:
I don't see how we could stop trying to fight racism until equally qualified black and hispanic people have odds of getting jobs at least in the same ballpark as equally qualified white people.
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Equally qualified black, hispanic and oriental people have just as much opportunity to get a job as any white person in this country.

That whole mindset is bull****.
 
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apdst said:
Equally qualified black, hispanic and oriental people have just as much opportunity to get a job as any white person in this country.
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Sadly, that just is not true. In fact, if a white person and a black person apply for exactly the same job with exactly the same resume, the white person is 2.4 times more likely to get called back for an interview. As a whole the system is still overwhelmingly biased against black people and in favor of white people.

Discrimination in a Low-Wage Labor Market: A Field Experiment by Devah Pager, Bruce Western, Bart Bonikowski :: SSRN
 
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teamosil said:
Sadly, that just is not true. In fact, if a white person and a black person apply for exactly the same job with exactly the same resume, the white person is 2.4 times more likely to get called back for an interview. As a whole the system is still overwhelmingly biased against black people and in favor of white people.

Discrimination in a Low-Wage Labor Market: A Field Experiment by Devah Pager, Bruce Western, Bart Bonikowski :: SSRN
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They should try that study in the social services field and especially with the federal government.
 
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teamosil said:
Sadly, that just is not true. In fact, if a white person and a black person apply for exactly the same job with exactly the same resume, the white person is 2.4 times more likely to get called back for an interview. As a whole the system is still overwhelmingly biased against black people and in favor of white people.

Discrimination in a Low-Wage Labor Market: A Field Experiment by Devah Pager, Bruce Western, Bart Bonikowski :: SSRN
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Yeah, that's bull****, too.

I've never had a problem either getting a job, nor making top wages.

That study, like most of those studies, is bull****. Wages and employment have more to do with attitude and work ethic than race.
 
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apdst said:
I've never had a problem either getting a job, nor making top wages.
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What race are you?

apdst said:
That study, like most of those studies, is bull****.
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Uh, so you're just anti-knowledge flat out? Pro-stupidity? Really?

apdst said:
Wages and employment have more to do with attitude and work ethic than race.
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Again, all that differs between the applicants is the color of their skin. They have the same resume- so as far as the employer knows, they have the same work ethic and attitude. So I guess your theory is wrong.
 
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