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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    But again, somewhere along the line for a time, the Republican party stopped being inclusives and took a more separatist stance on issues of race.
    Your misunderstanding of the political landscape stems from your misunderstanding of the word inclusive. Republicans are more inclusive than Democrats because they support race-blind policies, meaning everything that Republicans advocate applies equally to every American citizens. The Democrats however support race/culture/gender-focused policies which by their very nature exclude all citizens who don't qualify on the basis of race/culture/gender.

    Now, here's a shocker...there have been Black presidential candidates long before the Rev. Jesse Jackson. The first was Clennon King in 1960; the first Black female, Charlene Mitchell. But the first to run and actully win the primary nomination of a major political party (Democrat) was Shirley Chisholm. The first Black Republican to ever be placed on the ballot for the presidency was also a female, Margaret Chase Smith. She lost to Barry Goldwater.
    The difference between Obama and his predecessors is that the predecessors never stood a chance because they were too authentically African-American. Obama doesn't have the accent/cadence of most African-Americans, he wasn't raised in the African-American community - he was/is a man apart. I recall that early in his campaign, when black vote was still solidly behind Clinton there was discussion within the AA community about whether Obama was authentically black. Clearly that was decided in his favor.

    What I find crazy about this whole "Blacks voted for one of their own kind" argument is that African Americans have been voting for White presidents since they first were given the right to vote. But suddenly when a viable Black presidential candiate burst upon the sceen and takes the country by storm suddenly we're all racist because we put the power of our vote to work for one of our own?
    There were a lot of complaints directed toward Catholics back in the 1960 election because they too voted as a bloc for the first Catholic candidate. The troubling part of this dynamic is when people identify more with a religion or race than they do with being American. This is going to lead us into very bad territory as we progress to the future. As blacks and Hispanics gravitate towards the Democrats the natural response will be to set in motion a greater white migration towards the Republicans. Why? The appeal of the Democrats is that they promise a racial spoils system and wealth redistribution and because there is wealth disparity between whites and blacks/Hispanics, this means that there will be a wealth transfer from whites towards minorities. Whites who stand today with the Democrats will be less likely to do so in the future as they are penalized by such policies. A far healthier political distribution would see racial/gender/culture random distributions between the political parties so that we avoid the overlap of race and political party.

    What does that say about the millions of White people who have voted for nothing but White presidential hopefuls throughout this country's history?
    Whites are not yet a solidified racial voting bloc like blacks.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So liberals are the arbiters of what is racist, and what isn't? I don't buy that for a second. See, I don't want blacks to be unduly disadvantaged because of the color of their skin, but in many cases the unintended consequence of what you are proposing through the force of law, goes beyond leveling the playing field to skewing it.

    Right now you have businesses out there that have black employees that are not pulling their weight, that other white employees in the same position would have been let go, but the employer is hesitant to do such with the black employee due to litigation, and fines. The unintended consequence here is that the employer must keep on the substandard employee out of racism, not his, but liberal laws that cede power to the employee to ruin the man's business.
    I understand many conservatives believe that to be true, but again, the actual scientific studies show unequivocally that the economy as a whole is still dramatically biased in favor of white people, not black people. So that belief is false.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nonsense, most people don't give two craps what color Obama is, as evidenced by the huge white independent turn out to elect him. Are you really trying the Geraffalo (sic) gambit, because she is just one huge ass hole that has no idea what she is talking about, she just spews hate.
    Er what are you talking about? You claimed that liberals point out racism when they see it because of something to do with Obama. I'm saying it doesn't have anything to do with Obama. Most the times they call somebody out for saying something racist the person they call out isn't talking about Obama or anything... So I don't think that theory of your is true at all. Not sure what you're talking about with Garofalo and all that...

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Apparently, Carson has guidance. If you are a poor country boy just trying to get elected

    Democrat Byrd joined an organization who had absolutely no problem hanging a person of color to include someone who voluntarily served this country during WWII. That is who he is and that is who he will forever be. He cannot absolve himself of that organizations core beliefs anymore than can he bring its victims back to life.



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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    OMG instate third or unlimited terms, I want clinton back now.

    Anyways...

    Im listening to a malcom X speech. Are you all familiar with the term House Negro? This guy is like super george carlin awesomeman.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    OMG instate third or unlimited terms, I want clinton back now.

    Anyways...

    Im listening to a malcom X speech. Are you all familiar with the term House Negro? This guy is like super george carlin awesomeman.
    You do realize that Byrd voted against the civil rights act of 1965 and every other civil rights act that went before the Senate?

    A lot of people believe things, it doesn't mean that you join up with an organization that participates in illegal activities and recruits for it. The KKK had killed people and were doing things that were in direct violation of the law. For a modern parallel, all Muslims are not Al-Qaeda or Taliban. I can understand someone disliking another race due to their social upbringing, when you get to the point of violating the most core human rights (like living), you are taking it further than just being a product of society.

    Clinton posting a definition of any standard, meaning, policy, practice, philosophy or description of 3d singular verbs... is a joke beyond the limits of reason.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Apparently, Carson has guidance. If you are a poor country boy just trying to get elected

    Democrat Byrd joined an organization who had absolutely no problem hanging a person of color to include someone who voluntarily served this country during WWII. That is who he is and that is who he will forever be. He cannot absolve himself of that organizations core beliefs anymore than can he bring its victims back to life.
    But, as Clinton said, Byrd joined the KKK in order to get elected. An amazing excuse, and especially telling when it comes from a President who was himself impeached.

    Until Americans hold their politicians to higher standards, no matter what the party, the country will continue its decline.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    OMG instate third or unlimited terms, I want clinton back now.

    Anyways...

    Im listening to a malcom X speech. Are you all familiar with the term House Negro? This guy is like super george carlin awesomeman.
    You want the return of an impeached President who defended a member of the KKK?

    Are you serious or being ironic?

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I did. And I ask again...WHEN did the term Tar Baby go from the meaning ascribed in the Uncle Remus story to being a racist term that people like you use to justify your bigotry against an entire group of people?
    The same day that it became racist to criticize any and everything that a black person does.

    Uncle Remus stories are racist, for that matter.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    OMG instate third or unlimited terms, I want clinton back now.

    Anyways...

    Im listening to a malcom X speech. Are you all familiar with the term House Negro? This guy is like super george carlin awesomeman.
    For the sake of clarity, are you calling Malcom X, awesome?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Did you bother to read the article in its entirety?
    Ever hear of Brer Rabbit? Read the whole, "Brer Rabbit and The Tar Baby", story? Disney made a cartoon of it.

    Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby - YouTube

    This is just another case of Liberals totally misunderstanding historical context.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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