They don't need the likes of you as a protector. This country elected a black man to the presidency and people were orgasming about that. The system is fair. No one is being oppressed. Go fight some other imaginary battle.The rights and liberty of the minorities you don't even consider, right?
Yeah, you want your cake and you want to eat it too. You'd rather punish American business owners than illegal aliens. You say that your concern is that there are too many blacks who are unemployed. I'm telling you that there are 20 million illegals working and displacing these unemployed blacks from the labor market. Make your choice. Well, I see you have - totalitarianist intrusion into the minutia of American business, the jailing of people who you think might have discriminatory feelings in their heart, and the eradication of freedom of association. Those are far more preferred than deporting 20 million uninvited invaders who are actively harming the interests of unemployed American citizens.That's a whole other debate, but you're just as wrong on that one as you are on this one... I'm sure we've debated that to death elsewhere, but if not yet, I'm sure we will.
His election speaks to the nation's attitudes towards race. If the system was permeated with dirty stinking racists who hate black people and want to have nothing to do with them, then it would have been impossible for Obama to have gotten elected. That's the problem with the liberal view of the world that you operate on - you see disparity in outcome and you believe that it is the result of white people hating on black people. A lot of whites voted for Obama precisely to send the message that this is not what is going on.LOL. So you think that somehow the minute Obama took the white house all the discrimination in the country just magically disappeared?
Where do you get this stuff, Karl Marx Correspondence School? Right now we have one of the lowest workforce participation ratios in our nation's history. There are millions of people unemployed and looking for work.Getting rid of undocumented immigrants would collapse the economy and radically increase unemployment, so no
Actually itd only take a fraction of homogenized white voters to give him the election. :PIf the system was permeated with dirty stinking racists who hate black people and want to have nothing to do with them, then it would have been impossible for Obama to have gotten elected.
nope - but one of the side benefits of his election was to disprove the theory that racism is somehow still some kind of dominant social meme.LOL. So you think that somehow the minute Obama took the white house all the discrimination in the country just magically disappeared?
really? Oklahoma did an excellent job of decreasing it's illegal population a couple of years back by going after the employers. How is Oklahoma doing in this recession. major unemployment?Getting rid of undocumented immigrants would collapse the economy and radically increase unemployment
huh. isn't that odd. 5.5%
“If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures.”
- Alexander Hamilton. Spiritual father of #NeverTrump
I have to give it to the conservatives in this thread - you have all become VERY good at disguising your support of discrimination without actually saying the word discrimination.
Why can you just say "it's efficient to discriminate against blacks because I think they're less likely to perform well since I hold racial stereotypes" rather than "employers wisely allocate their time and resources to focus on candidate that they feel are most like to become the best workers (aka not black people)"? Just be honest about it.
"It ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to." - W. C. Fields
In today's make up of race as a percentage of population blacks make up around 13% of the total population by race. So I'd say that your 2.4% number there is proof that affirmative action is working.
You show me where in todays market place people don't have equal opportunity, and I'll stand with you, however, if what you want to do is equal the playing field through some sense of guilt for being born white, then I have no time for arguing handouts.
I can't truly, or honestly put myself in any of those positions, and say with any certainty. People are different, some rise to the challenge, some don't. I will tell you this though, no one gave me anything in my life, what I have accomplished, I had to earn.Think back through your life. Take out 3 of every 5 jobs you've gotten. Where would you be? On welfare? A criminal? Would your family still be intact? What medical or dental problems have you or your family had that you wouldn't have been able to afford to treat? Would you have an elderly parent living with you because you/they couldn't afford a retirement home? Where would you live? Where you do today or a ghetto? What kind of school would your kids have access to there? How much harder would it be to get your next job with those huge gaps in your resume? Etc. Yeah, I'd say that qualifies as beset.
And continually screaming racism where none exists is more damaging to those you say you want to help then if you just let people live, and focused on the real cases.No, I don't see it as all or nothing. Somebody could oppose racism, but just a little bit, or they could oppose it vigorously. Somebody could support it in one situation and oppose it in others, etc. The point I am trying to make is that ignoring it is not opposing it.
See this is where I believe that libs have it fundamentally wrong. When you elect a representative, they are supposed to go to DC and reflect the peoples voice that elected them. Not say to themselves "whew! I am in now baby! Time to do what I want.."When a politician gets elected they can't just take on responsibility for one tiny area of policy making, they make policy, or fail to make policy, about everything, so you can't just ignore their positions on all issues but one.
And I think that the left doesn't want to see racism die off because that is how they continue to get elected, especially in minority, or poor districts. IOW, the left keeps blacks in their respective positions in life for a vote.I think the fundamental gap is that the right seems to see racism as something that should be left to die on its own and the left sees it as something that needs to be extinguished. I don't see any evidence of it dying off on its own, so I don't see how that is a viable approach.