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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    So now you're critiquing studies that you know nothing about. Good job, Brownie.
    You posted one earlier and we discussed it. At the time you didn't seem to deny that it just meant that some people disliked those who were different than them... That's the explicit finding you are presenting the studies as backing up, no?

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Isn't about time we moved past such vile, angry bull****?

    Oh wait, I can't say that about the esteemed Rep. Carson, to criticize him, since I am a white male and tea partier, is racist.

    Just reading that filthy dung heaps rant makes my stomach churn in disgust.
    If we do move past B/S this assh...'S loose all legitimacy and power, a shame as it is that these individuals are still around, just think how much farther we would be today. Bottom line is that they would no longer receive money or power.
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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    You need to try college again... Firstly thats a measure of whitehouse coverage lean... for a brief period of time. Secondly, Fox is literally in bed with republicans, several of whom have worked for fox news. Who the **** are you kidding? Create an index of bias across multiple studies for multiple networks analysing the source references of the networks and language analysis when referring to candidates. If youre willing to do something actually useful with your time than give us snippets of us news... god.
    There will be left bias and right bias. Nobody's ever been able to pull off centrist bias. that being the case, I'd rather see right bias than left bias, because we've seen how much damage progressives have managed to do since the '20's.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    take that up with history. i'm just telling you what it is.
    no, you are repeating a common misconception.

    and your version of "the actual historical balance of racial policy" is based on a false understanding of history.
    HAH. no, sadly, in fact, this is not correct. from eugenics, to the minimum wage, to anti-miscegenation laws, to Jim Crow, and so on and so forth, Democrats, have the actual balance for racism tilted in their "favor".

    mind you, it's sort of a moot point. the fact remains that the notion that the Tea Party wants to bring back lynchings is a particularly ridiculous and vile smear. It's the Godwin's Law violation of racial politics.
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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You've got to be joking. Fox is so far out on the right wing it flies in circles.
    News is different than commentary. Fox's news broadcasts are the least biased, as the analysis shows.

    "Dr. Tim Groseclose, a professor of political science and economics at UCLA, has evaluated various media programs based on think tank citations to map liberal verses conservative slants. He has said that, based on his research, PBS NewsHour is the most centrist news program on television and the closest to a truly objective stance."
    I'll have to see the details of what he's found. I've always found that PBS exerts a bias by what it choses not to report. There are lies of commission and then there are lies of omission. Giving minor reporting to conservative issues and major reporting to liberal issues but making sure that the time spent on them is equal, doesn't equate to the least amount of bias.

    Speaking of Dr. Tim Groseclose, he also noted this week, that: "According to Tim's data, without media bias most US states would vote more like Texas or Tennessee."

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I am glad he said it

    The PC crap that the liberals have to use to appease conservatives is annoying
    Do you actually believe this?

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    HAH. no, sadly, in fact, this is not correct. from eugenics, to the minimum wage, to anti-miscegenation laws, to Jim Crow, and so on and so forth, Democrats, have the actual balance for racism tilted in their "favor".
    Minimum wage? I have no idea how you've worked it out with bizzaro right wing think to conclude that the minimum wage is racist... That's crazy backwards talk.

    But the other stuff is all 50 years ago. We're talking about today, and obviously it tilts the other way today.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    mind you, it's sort of a moot point. the fact remains that the notion that the Tea Party wants to bring back lynchings is a particularly ridiculous and vile smear. It's the Godwin's Law violation of racial politics.
    I've sort of changed my tune on the tea party and racism. I used to think that a substantial portion of their agenda was actual white supremacy. Now I think it's more like they support racist policies and say racist stuff, but it seems more like an effect of their sheer craziness more than conscious white supremacy... I mean their presidential candidate described slavery as a time when "race didn't matter"? Their only senator said the Civil Rights Act should be overturned? They're just bizzarely oblivious to racism or something? I dunno. Either they're intentionally playing to the white supremacist crowd to get votes or they are literally so stupid that they end up being racists by accident or something? I don't get it. But I do accept that they don't see themselves as being white supremacists for whatever that's worth.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    News is different than commentary. Fox's news broadcasts are the least biased, as the analysis shows.



    I'll have to see the details of what he's found. I've always found that PBS exerts a bias by what it choses not to report. There are lies of commission and then there are lies of omission. Giving minor reporting to conservative issues and major reporting to liberal issues but making sure that the time spent on them is equal, doesn't equate to the least amount of bias.

    Speaking of Dr. Tim Groseclose, he also noted this week, that: "According to Tim's data, without media bias most US states would vote more like Texas or Tennessee."
    You haven't shown any analysis that shows that Fox is the least biased. You linked to post showing that in one particular week they were about the same as CNN with respect to Obama/McCain.

    Another study showing Fox to be the most biased newscast: Media bias study - dKosopedia

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no, you are repeating a common misconception.

    HAH. no, sadly, in fact, this is not correct. from eugenics, to the minimum wage, to anti-miscegenation laws, to Jim Crow, and so on and so forth, Democrats, have the actual balance for racism tilted in their "favor".
    Your main problem is that you, like many, confuse name with content. In other words, you think if the name of the party of the same, then it's platform and constituency are the same. Unfortunately, the United States has gone through a series of realigning elections and party shifts so the Democrat and Republican parties of today are the same as the D and R parties of the 1860s and, in some ways, the 1960s, in name only. All you have to is acknowledge that the South used to be primarily Democratic and now it's primarily Republican to realize where many of the racists went.

    Here's some reading for you. Good luck!

    History of the United States Republican Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Realigning election - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Minimum wage? I have no idea how you've worked it out with bizzaro right wing think to conclude that the minimum wage is racist... That's crazy backwards talk.
    no, that's historically accurate "talk". the minimum wage was introduced in order to defend Decent White Folks who were trying to raise Decent White Families in Decent White Conditions... but who were being undercut by "Negros and mongrelized asian hordes." Sidney Webb (British Socialist) argued that "[o]f all ways of dealing with these unfortunate parasites, the most ruinous to the community is to allow them unrestrainedly to compete as wage earners". Edward Alsworth Ross (American Progressive) pointed out that since inferior races were content to live closer to a filthy state of nature than the Nordic man, they did not requier a civilized wage. "The Coolie cannot outdo the American, but he can underlive him" was the problem, and the answer was to enact a civilized minimum wage that would put said savages out of wage competition. The authors of the Davis-Bacon Act were quite open about the fact that the intent was to keep cheap black laborers from "taking" jobs from whites.

    But the other stuff is all 50 years ago. We're talking about today, and obviously it tilts the other way today.
    obviously. except, of course, no, not obviously at all.

    I've sort of changed my tune on the tea party and racism. I used to think that a substantial portion of their agenda was actual white supremacy. Now I think it's more like they support racist policies and say racist stuff, but it seems more like an effect of their sheer craziness more than conscious white supremacy
    what crap. "reduce the size of government" is a racist policy or racist statement?

    I mean their presidential candidate described slavery as a time when "race didn't matter"?
    the Tea Party has a presidential candidate? From the polling I've seen, a plurality supports Perry, but I'm unaware of any Tea Party Presidential candidate.


    OOOOH WAIT, i forgot; you're just making $&*t up.

    Their only senator said the Civil Rights Act should be overturned?
    There are at least three Senators who I can think of offhand who are intimately connected with the Tea Party movement - Jim DeMint, Marco Rubio, and Rand Paul. Of the three, I am only aware of Rand Paul commenting on the CRA, and what he said was that the restrictions on the actions of private citizens are antithetical to the intent of our founding, and he is correct. If any business-owner today is stupid enough to enact a racist business policy, let him suffer for it.

    They're just bizzarely oblivious to racism or something? I dunno.
    oblivious? i guess you could describe it as that. they generally don't care about race one way or the other.




    however, the point remains - the Representatives' charge in the OP is egregious, false, and a vicious smear. it's the mirror image of the notion that all opponents of the Iraq War were traitors to the country who wanted to see American troops die overseas.
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