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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Ignoring the fact that on occasion, that negative stereotype has been enhanced/reinforced by some within that racial group. Like I said...its not necessarily something you want to admit.
    Of course that is true- all stereotypes have some truth to them. Are you saying that makes it ok to be racist or something? Can you spell out your argument more?

    Personally I don't give a rat's ass about who to blame or whatever, I just want to fix it going forward.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I don't see how favoring one race over another can lead to racial equality. Can you?
    Well, of course it could. Think it through. Lets take a simpler example. Say that John has 10 carrots and Jane has 4. Your goal is for both of them to have the same number of carrots and you have 6 carrots. Who would you give them to if your goal was for them each to have the same number of carrots?

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    It's not about whether or not he fits into any stereotype. It is a question of how he could be completely oblivious to things that are part of every day life for every black person in the country... The reality is that people fabricate identities for online forums sometimes, so I don't automatically assume people are what they say they are. Who knows, he could really be black. But it seems like a longshot to me given that he appears to be under the impression that racial discrimination doesn't exist. If somebody on here claims to be from San Francisco, but then they make a series of impassioned posts about how earthquakes are a myth, I'll know they aren't from San Francisco too.
    Where did he say racial discrimination doesn't exist? From what I see he said the opposite.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    I was talking about you guys.
    So black dudes that agree are what? Somehow in support of KKK members?

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Where did he say racial discrimination doesn't exist? From what I see he said the opposite.
    The post that I was reacting to was this one:

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Equally qualified black, hispanic and oriental people have just as much opportunity to get a job as any white person in this country.
    Later though he did say that racial discrimination will always exist or something to that effect. Perhaps he just misspoke the first time, I don't know.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So black dudes that agree are what? Somehow in support of KKK members?
    In that they support arguments of yours similar to those of white brotherhood members, yes, that would be logically sound in some twisted way.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Only about 58% of democrats voted for it while 80% of republicans voted for it.
    Look at the numbers, not the percentages.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    what?!? but, but, but.... they were all Democrats in the Bad Old Days before the Party Changed Completely Because People Change! Why, LBJ was an active proponent of Jim Crow laws most of his career. Surely Democrats wouldn't be so cynical as to accuse Republicans of ties to racism while celebrating their own racist and racist-aligned historical leadership? Perish the thought!!!










    the best part of irony is when the target doesn't get it.
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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Johnson and passage Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    By party and region

    Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.

    The original House version:

    Southern Democrats: 787 (7%93%)
    Southern Republicans: 010 (0%100%)
    Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%6%)
    Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%15%)
    The Senate version:

    Southern Democrats: 120 (5%95%)
    Southern Republicans: 01 (0%100%)
    Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%2%)
    Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%16%)

    What tool came up with that bogus categorization? Northern and Southern is useful only for idiots who want to massage and twist the evidence for some misleading purpose. Political divisions that existed at the time of the Civil War say nothing about the nature of the political parties a century later. You may as well have divided the vote by into people with blond hair and people with brown hair or people who wore glasses and people who didn't wear glasses.

    You see everyone, the blond congressmen who wore classes were more in favor of civil rights than the brown haired congressmen who didn't wear glasses. That proves my point ! ! ! ! 1 1 1 ! !

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    What tool came up with that bogus categorization? Northern and Southern is useful only for idiots who want to massage and twist the evidence for some misleading purpose. Political divisions that existed at the time of the Civil War say nothing about the nature of the political parties a century later. You may as well have divided the vote by into people with blond hair and people with brown hair or people who wore glasses and people who didn't wear glasses.

    You see everyone, the blond congressmen who wore classes were more in favor of civil rights than the brown haired congressmen who didn't wear glasses. That proves my point ! ! ! ! 1 1 1 ! !
    Your assertion is beyond absurd. North and South was a very real division - even a century after the Civil War when it came to things like Civil Rights.

    Let me guess - you were not even alive during the period you are lecturing to others about ... right? Were your parents?
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