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    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Did you forget to study the history of the Republican Party?

    Lincoln's Republican Party is NOT by any stretch of the imagination the Republican Party of today.
    The Republican Party was founded on the slogan "Free Men, Free Soil" - a devotion to individual liberties, a free market economy, and an emphasis on the small businessman. The biggest change I can think of offhand is the removal of the protective tariff, and the importation and then rejection of a Progressive element, starting in the early 20th Century and ending only within the last decade or two.

    Moreover, the Democratic Party and Republican Party of the 1960s are NOT at all the Dem and Rep Parties of today
    exactly. look at the people who were in the Democrat Party in the 60's. You're talking about people like the Kennedy's, the Clintons, so on and so forth. They were all quickly flushed out, and haven't held any power recently at all. LBJ is reviled by today's party; that's why they look such askance at his Great Society Program.

    as I've said several times, the constituencies of the parties switched during the civil rights movements with the racist southern Dems moving to the Republican Party.
    For example, the Robert Byrds'. And who was that Republican leader who got in trouble a couple of years back for calling Obama a "clean" black guy who "didn't speak negro unless he wanted to"?

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Answer mine first. I double-dog-dare-ya!
    So I guess I can assume that you don't actually respect "real world experience" like you say you do. You only respect your own experiences and willfully ignore the experiences of other people that don't fit into your worldview. Thanks for clarifying.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    The Republican Party was founded on the slogan "Free Men, Free Soil" - a devotion to individual liberties, a free market economy, and an emphasis on the small businessman. The biggest change I can think of offhand is the removal of the protective tariff, and the importation and then rejection of a Progressive element, starting in the early 20th Century and ending only within the last decade or two.
    History of the United States Republican Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    exactly. look at the people who were in the Democrat Party in the 60's. You're talking about people like the Kennedy's, the Clintons, so on and so forth. They were all quickly flushed out, and haven't held any power recently at all. LBJ is reviled by today's party; that's why they look such askance at his Great Society Program.
    I think you're confused. The Democratic and Republican Parties were transitioning in the 60s...that was my point. 1965 and 68 were when the great voter shifts happened.

    For example, the Robert Byrds'.
    Listing names does nothing to erase the history of both parties.
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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Byrd was a member of the KKK when he was young, people change. Prove he was a racist when he died.


    "all the voters in the south were only racists when they were in the democrat party, people change. Prove that they didn't."


    OR, how about this: Prove (as per our OP) that the Tea Party wants to bring back lynchings of black people.




    OR, if you can't do that, then I would like to see you reference how you believe comments to that effect fit within the "new civility" framework that the President laid out in his (excellent) speech after the Representative Giffords shooting?

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    from playdrive


    Moreover, the Democratic Party and Republican Party of the 1960s are NOT at all the Dem and Rep Parties of today
    the response from cpwill


    exactly. look at the people who were in the Democrat Party in the 60's. You're talking about people like the Kennedy's, the Clintons, so on and so forth. They were all quickly flushed out, and haven't held any power recently at all. LBJ is reviled by today's party; that's why they look such askance at his Great Society Program.
    Death will do that to you. But I work most days of the week with Democrats in positions of power and I have never ever heard anyone express anything approaching revulsion about LBJ or JFK or Clinton. That just plain incorrect and has no basis in fact. I think statements such as the one I printed here are made by far rightists who have a cartoon version of the Democratic Party in their heads and simply do not know of what they speak.
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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    yup.

    I think you're confused. The Democratic and Republican Parties were transitioning in the 60s...that was my point. 1965 and 68 were when the great voter shifts happened.
    yes. my point was that yours was crap .

    Listing names does nothing to erase the history of both parties.
    racism is indeed a sad and ugly chapter in American history - but to pretend that it somehow belongs especially to the Republican party is ridiculous, and in fact in opposition to the actual historical balance of racial policy

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Death will do that to you. But I work most days of the week with Democrats in positions of power and I have never ever heard anyone express anything approaching revulsion about LBJ or JFK or Clinton. That just plain incorrect and has no basis in fact.

    what?!? but, but, but.... they were all Democrats in the Bad Old Days before the Party Changed Completely Because People Change! Why, LBJ was an active proponent of Jim Crow laws most of his career. Surely Democrats wouldn't be so cynical as to accuse Republicans of ties to racism while celebrating their own racist and racist-aligned historical leadership? Perish the thought!!!










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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yes. my point was that yours was crap .
    take that up with history. i'm just telling you what it is.

    racism is indeed a sad and ugly chapter in American history - but to pretend that it somehow belongs especially to the Republican party is ridiculous, and in fact in opposition to the actual historical balance of racial policy
    and your version of "the actual historical balance of racial policy" is based on a false understanding of history.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    and your version of "the actual historical balance of racial policy" is based on a false understanding of history.

    What do you mean by "your version" History has but one version based in fact, any other so called "version" is a narrative, and not accurate. But, I welcome you to lay out the so called "racial policies" that you cite cpwill of ignoring, or changing here. The record can speak for itself.

    For instance, Al Gore recently had some nearly incoherent rant about racism, and the one thing that was surreal about it was that he seems to have forgotten how his own father blocked, and voted against legislation concerning equal rights for Blacks in this country.

    I personally would like Rep. Carson to name who the hell he is talking about in congress, and cite proof of this BS. He comes out with some "There are those in congress..." crap, and fails to say who he is talking about, meanwhile if a republican ever said anything close to that demo's would in true Allinsky fashion would be pressing for names, and dismissing when none were forthcoming.

    Carson is a joke, and this perpetual smear from libs towards conservatives as demo's do everything in their legislative power to keep poor Blacks right where the hell they are in their station in life so as not to loose that voting block is pure transparent crap!

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Since I'm not, "black", he can't call me Uncle Tom. Right?

    maybe colored would fit his stereotype better?

    And people wonder why I don't like Libbos.
    There is another condition...you also have to be a liberal and you have to level your hatred and rhetoric towards conservative black people. Then it gets ignored, excused, and/or justified.

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