Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'

deltabtry · Sep 3, 2011

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Lord Tammerlain said:
I am glad he said it

The PC crap that the liberals have to use to appease conservatives is annoying

Do you actually believe this?

teamosil · Sep 3, 2011

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cpwill said:
HAH. no, sadly, in fact, this is not correct. from eugenics, to the minimum wage, to anti-miscegenation laws, to Jim Crow, and so on and so forth, Democrats, have the actual balance for racism tilted in their "favor".

Minimum wage? I have no idea how you've worked it out with bizzaro right wing think to conclude that the minimum wage is racist... That's crazy backwards talk.

But the other stuff is all 50 years ago. We're talking about today, and obviously it tilts the other way today.

cpwill said:
mind you, it's sort of a moot point. the fact remains that the notion that the Tea Party wants to bring back lynchings is a particularly ridiculous and vile smear. It's the Godwin's Law violation of racial politics.

I've sort of changed my tune on the tea party and racism. I used to think that a substantial portion of their agenda was actual white supremacy. Now I think it's more like they support racist policies and say racist stuff, but it seems more like an effect of their sheer craziness more than conscious white supremacy... I mean their presidential candidate described slavery as a time when "race didn't matter"? Their only senator said the Civil Rights Act should be overturned? They're just bizzarely oblivious to racism or something? I dunno. Either they're intentionally playing to the white supremacist crowd to get votes or they are literally so stupid that they end up being racists by accident or something? I don't get it. But I do accept that they don't see themselves as being white supremacists for whatever that's worth.

AdamT · Sep 3, 2011

RiverDad said:
News is different than commentary. Fox's news broadcasts are the least biased, as the analysis shows.

I'll have to see the details of what he's found. I've always found that PBS exerts a bias by what it choses not to report. There are lies of commission and then there are lies of omission. Giving minor reporting to conservative issues and major reporting to liberal issues but making sure that the time spent on them is equal, doesn't equate to the least amount of bias.

Speaking of Dr. Tim Groseclose, he also noted this week, that: "According to Tim's data, without media bias most US states would vote more like Texas or Tennessee."

You haven't shown any analysis that shows that Fox is the least biased. You linked to post showing that in one particular week they were about the same as CNN with respect to Obama/McCain.

Another study showing Fox to be the most biased newscast: Media bias study - dKosopedia

ThePlayDrive · Sep 3, 2011

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cpwill said:
no, you are repeating a common misconception.

HAH. no, sadly, in fact, this is not correct. from eugenics, to the minimum wage, to anti-miscegenation laws, to Jim Crow, and so on and so forth, Democrats, have the actual balance for racism tilted in their "favor".

Your main problem is that you, like many, confuse name with content. In other words, you think if the name of the party of the same, then it's platform and constituency are the same. Unfortunately, the United States has gone through a series of realigning elections and party shifts so the Democrat and Republican parties of today are the same as the D and R parties of the 1860s and, in some ways, the 1960s, in name only. All you have to is acknowledge that the South used to be primarily Democratic and now it's primarily Republican to realize where many of the racists went.

Here's some reading for you. Good luck!

History of the United States Republican Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Realigning election - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

cpwill · Sep 3, 2011

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teamosil said:
Minimum wage? I have no idea how you've worked it out with bizzaro right wing think to conclude that the minimum wage is racist... That's crazy backwards talk.

no, that's historically accurate "talk". the minimum wage was introduced in order to defend Decent White Folks who were trying to raise Decent White Families in Decent White Conditions... but who were being undercut by "Negros and mongrelized asian hordes." Sidney Webb (British Socialist) argued that "[o]f all ways of dealing with these unfortunate parasites, the most ruinous to the community is to allow them unrestrainedly to compete as wage earners". Edward Alsworth Ross (American Progressive) pointed out that since inferior races were content to live closer to a filthy state of nature than the Nordic man, they did not requier a civilized wage. "The Coolie cannot outdo the American, but he can underlive him" was the problem, and the answer was to enact a civilized minimum wage that would put said savages out of wage competition. The authors of the Davis-Bacon Act were quite open about the fact that the intent was to keep cheap black laborers from "taking" jobs from whites.

But the other stuff is all 50 years ago. We're talking about today, and obviously it tilts the other way today.

obviously. except, of course, no, not obviously at all.

I've sort of changed my tune on the tea party and racism. I used to think that a substantial portion of their agenda was actual white supremacy. Now I think it's more like they support racist policies and say racist stuff, but it seems more like an effect of their sheer craziness more than conscious white supremacy

what crap. "reduce the size of government" is a racist policy or racist statement? :roll:

I mean their presidential candidate described slavery as a time when "race didn't matter"?

the Tea Party has a presidential candidate? From the polling I've seen, a plurality supports Perry, but I'm unaware of any Tea Party Presidential candidate.

OOOOH WAIT, i forgot; you're just making $&*t up.

Their only senator said the Civil Rights Act should be overturned?

There are at least three Senators who I can think of offhand who are intimately connected with the Tea Party movement - Jim DeMint, Marco Rubio, and Rand Paul. Of the three, I am only aware of Rand Paul commenting on the CRA, and what he said was that the restrictions on the actions of private citizens are antithetical to the intent of our founding, and he is correct. If any business-owner today is stupid enough to enact a racist business policy, let him suffer for it.

They're just bizzarely oblivious to racism or something? I dunno.

oblivious? i guess you could describe it as that. they generally don't care about race one way or the other.

however, the point remains - the Representatives' charge in the OP is egregious, false, and a vicious smear. it's the mirror image of the notion that all opponents of the Iraq War were traitors to the country who wanted to see American troops die overseas.

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cpwill said:
oblivious? i guess you could describe it as that. they generally don't care about race one way or the other.

So, yeah, there you go. I'd say that is about right. So not overtly white supremacist, but pretty close. Eager to allow racism to continue unchecked.

cpwill · Sep 3, 2011

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teamosil said:
So, yeah, there you go. I'd say that is about right. So not overtly white supremacist, but pretty close. Eager to allow racism to continue unchecked.

what?!? not caring about race is precisely the opposite of racism.

teamosil · Sep 3, 2011

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cpwill said:
what?!? not caring about race is precisely the opposite of racism.

No, not at all. We live in a country beset by racism and racial inequality. A person has three options. They can support racism, they can oppose racism, or they can just try to ignore the whole thing. What you mean when you say they don't care about race is that they try to ignore the whole thing. The opposite of racism would be fighting against racism, which tea party types steadfastly resist.

Henrin · Sep 3, 2011

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AdamT said:
No, don't be stupid. The south, which was predominantly democratic, has over the years become predominantly republican. And it was primarily southern legislators who opposed the civil rights act. Ergo....

Denial is always funny. All it is an excuse for how the votes went down. If you don't want to face the fact that more democrats voted against the bill that you guys think is the measuring tool for racism be my quest.

Henrin · Sep 3, 2011

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cpwill said:
no, that's historically accurate "talk". the minimum wage was introduced in order to defend Decent White Folks who were trying to raise Decent White Families in Decent White Conditions... but who were being undercut by "Negros and mongrelized asian hordes." Sidney Webb (British Socialist) argued that "[o]f all ways of dealing with these unfortunate parasites, the most ruinous to the community is to allow them unrestrainedly to compete as wage earners". Edward Alsworth Ross (American Progressive) pointed out that since inferior races were content to live closer to a filthy state of nature than the Nordic man, they did not requier a civilized wage. "The Coolie cannot outdo the American, but he can underlive him" was the problem, and the answer was to enact a civilized minimum wage that would put said savages out of wage competition. The authors of the Davis-Bacon Act were quite open about the fact that the intent was to keep cheap black laborers from "taking" jobs from whites.

This part right here makes the entire post golden. I don't even understand how people don't know that the minimum wage was racist. All they have to do is look at the statements of the time when it was passed to democrats saying how the white man was being undercut and beaten in the market.

ecofarm · Sep 3, 2011

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haymarket said:
As to your second point - really now - are you serious?

I’m “totally” serious. In order for you to understand, I will take things very slow this time (using, once again, the TP t-shirt-guy as an example)…

First, we should examine your methodology. The methods you employ are based on the premise that the person is guilty, is making a confession and is using context as a convenient cover for their racist remarks. In this way, the person is presumed and then proven guilty. Next, let’s look at the methods you employ to this end:

1. Remove the context of the event. In the case of the t-shirt-guy, this includes ignoring the event he is at and all of the political implications of that event. This is similar to ignoring the context of a thread.

2. Remove the context of the statement itself. That is, remove some of the words on the t-shirt, and leave only the words that allow you to make the pre-determined accusation. This is similar to removing the context of a post, keeping only the words useful to make the pre-determined accusation.

The above methodology and methods are made clear in the quote below, from this thread:

haymarket said:
Is it actually making a point about perceptions of the left? I have no idea as I think that is merely convenient cover for a public expression of racism.

Now, we should go one step further to the specific matter of cognition on your part. You claimed that if you wore a similar t-shirt, you would expect everyone to remove all of the context and realize that you are, in fact, a racist. You’re very clear about your expectations of interpretation and you are cognizant that any statements you make will (and, according you, should) be analyzed via the above methods.

The above cognition is made clear in the quote below, from this thread:

haymarket said:
I strongly suspect that if I wore a T-shirt that said "I am a freedom killing Marxist" - and then on the back listed reasons why the far right perceives me as such, you and others would focus only on the front of it stating that it reveals truth in the disguise of satire.

In conclusion, given your methodology, methods and cognitive awareness, how do you explain the quote below, from this thread:

haymarket said:
OBAMA IS A NIGGER

One can only hope that this illustration will enable you to see the light, and to stop thinking that everyone is trying to (as you wrote) "piss on progressives faces". Look, no one is trying to piss on your face. You're just being completely unreasonable in your analysis of other's actions.

RiverDad · Sep 3, 2011

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teamosil said:
No, not at all. We live in a country beset by racism and racial inequality. A person has three options. They can support racism, they can oppose racism, or they can just try to ignore the whole thing. What you mean when you say they don't care about race is that they try to ignore the whole thing. The opposite of racism would be fighting against racism, which tea party types steadfastly resist.

We're not beset by racism. We have a black President for goodness sakes. We do have racial inequality but that's not society's fault nor is it society's responsibility to fix it.

American · Sep 3, 2011

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justabubba said:
rather than whine about him daring to expressing his opinion, why don't you instead share with us what is found wrong about his observations

You mean like the part where the Tea Party wants blacks hanging in trees? What kind of moronic, sick mind thinks up stuff like that? Oh I know, the liberal kind.

haymarket · Sep 3, 2011

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Ecofarm

I have little doubt that you feel you are making some point about this T shirt. However, since it is so labored and so without any central foundation, I have absolutely no idea what it is.

You seem hellbent on defending that T shirt which proclaims the wearer to be a proud racist. You further seem to believe that you can pretend to be clever by taking my example of a racist Obama T shirt or sign and using it to defend the real actual racist T shirt under discussion.

Your intellectually dishonest tactic smacks of desperation not to mention a complete lack of any actual substance.

Perhaps the greater question is this: why do you feel this strong need to defend that racist Tshirt in the first place?

ecofarm · Sep 3, 2011

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haymarket said:
Ecofarm

I have little doubt that you feel you are making some point about this T shirt. However, since it is so labored and so without any central foundation, I have absolutely no idea what it is.

It's you, but I don't think you can see it. Keep using the word nigger and complaining that others utilize context to cover their outward displays of racism.

haymarket · Sep 3, 2011

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ecofarm said:
It's you, but I don't think you can see it. Keep using the word nigger and complaining that others utilize context to cover their outward displays of racism.

When you push this to the outer edges of absurdity, its really hard to take anything you say seriously. If you do not see the difference, it must be due to an extreme case of willful ideologically imposed blindness.

ecofarm · Sep 3, 2011

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haymarket said:
When you push this to the outer edges of absurdity, its really hard to take anything you say seriously. If you do not see the difference, it must be due to an extreme case of willful ideologically imposed blindness.

It's like you can see it, but you can't. Weird. Anyway, I'm an ecocentric internationalist who ascribes to neither political nor religious ideology. See sig and lean, and my visitor's messeges for basic CV.

Who's ideologially blind?

haymarket · Sep 3, 2011

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ecofarm said:
It's like you can see it, but you can't. Weird. Anyway, I'm an ecocentric internationalist who ascribes to neither political nor religious ideology. See sig and lean, and my visitor's messeges for basic CV.

Who's ideologially blind?

Whatever the problem is its preventing you from intentionally reading what I wrote and understanding it.

I see no reason why you continue to defend that racist T shirt.

j-mac · Sep 3, 2011

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teamosil said:
No, not at all. We live in a country beset by racism and racial inequality.

"Beset by racism"? I think your description is a little extreme for the actual situation in the USA. I understand that you live in SF, where even the ownership of a pet is under scrutiny as slavery, but come on now, Beset? Explain.

A person has three options. They can support racism, they can oppose racism, or they can just try to ignore the whole thing.

I think I am starting to see the problem with your view of the problem in this country....You see it as an all or nothing, or ignorant situation...Such totality in your thinking I think skews your view of the real causes of racism that exists.

What you mean when you say they don't care about race is that they try to ignore the whole thing.

Now you read minds as well...Now that is talent.

The opposite of racism would be fighting against racism, which tea party types steadfastly resist.

I would have to say that you really don't understand the Tea Party at all then. Tea Party is about taxation, not race. Also, one thing to fight racism is to not acknowledge it is even construct within your daily life. See, I would say that it is libs like you that I think need to constantly promote a problem like racism, and never let it totally die, in order to have a wedge issue to smear your opponent with. When in reality that you won't let racism die makes you the racist.

j-mac

1Perry · Sep 3, 2011

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teamosil said:
Ok, then what are we debating about?

My position is to enforce our laws, not to create and accept racist groups and programs. The rest of your post really doesn't matter as long as we can not get past that basic position.

There are two ways you can enforce the civil rights act. Option 1 is individual lawsuits. The problem with this approach is that it is almost impossible to prove in any but the most overt situations. Almost all cases where somebody wins the defendant admitted flat out that they were discriminating. Short of that how would anybody prove what was going on in their heads? The more realistic enforcement mechanism is affirmative action. It takes a statistical approach. The way it currently works is that government contractors and government offices need to report the percentages of people from various races they hire. If their numbers are way off, they are asked to provide an explanation. Usually the explanation is that they got fewer qualified applicants from the under-represented race. There is no investigation of their explanation usually. If they can't explain it or their explanation seems to be ridiculous then they are required to take steps to address the discrimination. Usually that means conducting a training for their hiring managers encouraging them not to discriminate. In theory, if a company refuses to take any steps to address it, it can go further to the point where they would lose government contracts and face a fine. To my knowledge, that has only happened once in US history. It was a big factory that built things for the government that had an explicit policy to only hire whites and refused to eliminate the policy...

It wouldn't be hard to prove in court that whites were getting interviewed at 2 1/2 times the rate of blacks IF that was actually happening and you were forced to defend that.

Your position is that you MUST hire a certain portion based only on their race or sex not on their qualifications. You are saying that if I go to court and I show that whites were high school graduates at 2 1/2 times the rate of others, I still must hire the others.

So, not exactly strict enforcement at present. I would support strict enforcement. For example, I think we should ramp up the investigation of companies that are way out of whack with the norms for their industries and we should reduce the burden of proof for discrimination suits by allowing plaintiffs to use statistical evidence that a company has a history of not hiring members of their group. You say you don't have a problem with strict enforcement, but I suspect you aren't on board with that. Or are you?

I disagree that we do NOT do that. We indeed do. I also disagree that guilty until proven innocent is absolutely the right way to go about things. If a company is in an area that has say a 45% minority population and the company has a 10% minority workforce they should get a chance to explain. I beleve that if it was a case where as I said, only 10% of the minority apps were college grads, the problem is with society, not with the business. If a legit reason can not be shown then I support intervention. (outside of mom and pop businesses and other similiar cases). Chinese and Mexican restuarants are always going to be off from the areas norm. Nothing wrong with that.

Tons of jobs people apply by dropping off an application or resume. But regardless, I don't see how submitting it online would change anything, it would just mean they would be discriminated against in the interview instead of before the interview, but that doesn't help anybody. Maybe it would make it harder to study...

It wouldn't at all. If Wal-Mart has a 10% minority workforce in an area that is 45% minority it's not so tough to decide that maybe someone needs to ask why. Why is this so tough to understand?

In order to win a discrimination suit you need to prove that the individual who didn't hire you did it because of your race. If they just made a dumb decision or something, that isn't illegal. And, generally, you can't introduce statistics about past hiring tendencies. That's considered prejudicial and usually it is not allowed.

No you don't. Now if there was one case, you aren't going to be able to prove much. If there is a history of not hiring minorities it's not tough to prove. As I said, simply numbers will show if there need to be questions asked or not. I fully agree with investigating certain places that hire people but in no way can I support racist policies developed by the government.

I'll ask again though.....why is it that Wal-Mart must be non discriminatory but the CBC doesn't have to be? How do you allow an outright racist organization tell others they can not be as racist as they are?

cpwill · Sep 3, 2011

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teamosil said:
No, not at all. We live in a country beset by racism and racial inequality.

BS: we live in a country marked by high racial inequality due mostly to the choices that our different subcultures make. Everyone so eager to accuse the Dominant White Culture of Racially Holding Back Others due to blacks and hispanics inferior comparative performance skips entirely over the superior performance of Asians. Were the dominant culture actually racist it would continue to hold them back, as it used to. Instead, Asian immigrants continue to have nuclear families, impart strong ethical values centered around respect for others and the importance of education and having a work ethic, and are outperforming every other ethnic group, largely to the degree that said groups stick to those trends. Racism as a major leading Issue Of Our Times is (thankfully) a thing of the past (for now).

A person has three options. They can support racism, they can oppose racism, or they can just try to ignore the whole thing. What you mean when you say they don't care about race is that they try to ignore the whole thing. The opposite of racism would be fighting against racism, which tea party types steadfastly resist.

fighting racism with different racism remains racism. as for me and mine and the Tea Party, we'll judge by the content of their character, thanks. good luck with your color-of-their-skin thing.

but it sounds like even you would agree that the "the Tea Party wants to lynch black people" line is crap.

teamosil · Sep 3, 2011

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j-mac said:
"Beset by racism"? I think your description is a little extreme for the actual situation in the USA. I understand that you live in SF, where even the ownership of a pet is under scrutiny as slavery, but come on now, Beset? Explain.

In the US today if a white person and a black person both apply for the same job with the exact same resume, the white person is 2.4 times more likely to get an interview. Think back through your life. Take out 3 of every 5 jobs you've gotten. Where would you be? On welfare? A criminal? Would your family still be intact? What medical or dental problems have you or your family had that you wouldn't have been able to afford to treat? Would you have an elderly parent living with you because you/they couldn't afford a retirement home? Where would you live? Where you do today or a ghetto? What kind of school would your kids have access to there? How much harder would it be to get your next job with those huge gaps in your resume? Etc. Yeah, I'd say that qualifies as beset.

j-mac said:
I think I am starting to see the problem with your view of the problem in this country....You see it as an all or nothing, or ignorant situation...Such totality in your thinking I think skews your view of the real causes of racism that exists.

No, I don't see it as all or nothing. Somebody could oppose racism, but just a little bit, or they could oppose it vigorously. Somebody could support it in one situation and oppose it in others, etc. The point I am trying to make is that ignoring it is not opposing it.

j-mac said:
I would have to say that you really don't understand the Tea Party at all then. Tea Party is about taxation, not race.

When a politician gets elected they can't just take on responsibility for one tiny area of policy making, they make policy, or fail to make policy, about everything, so you can't just ignore their positions on all issues but one.

j-mac said:
Also, one thing to fight racism is to not acknowledge it is even construct within your daily life. See, I would say that it is libs like you that I think need to constantly promote a problem like racism, and never let it totally die, in order to have a wedge issue to smear your opponent with. When in reality that you won't let racism die makes you the racist.

I think the fundamental gap is that the right seems to see racism as something that should be left to die on its own and the left sees it as something that needs to be extinguished. I don't see any evidence of it dying off on its own, so I don't see how that is a viable approach.

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1Perry said:
My position is to enforce our laws, not to create and accept racist groups and programs. The rest of your post really doesn't matter as long as we can not get past that basic position.

Our laws say that a business can't discriminate on the basis of race. AA and discrimination suits are attempts to enforce that. So the question is, how strong should that enforcement be?

1Perry said:
It wouldn't be hard to prove in court that whites were getting interviewed at 2 1/2 times the rate of blacks IF that was actually happening and you were forced to defend that.

Your position is that you MUST hire a certain portion based only on their race or sex not on their qualifications. You are saying that if I go to court and I show that whites were high school graduates at 2 1/2 times the rate of others, I still must hire the others.

No, I think you're mixing up the details. An equally qualified white gets 2.4 times as many interviews as an equally qualified black. On average, black applicants are less qualified, so the actual ratio of interviews given would be much higher. I am not arguing that anybody should hire a less qualified person. I am arguing that the goal needs to be for equally qualified people to have an equal chance regardless of their race.

1Perry said:
I also disagree that guilty until proven innocent is absolutely the right way to go about things. If a company is in an area that has say a 45% minority population and the company has a 10% minority workforce they should get a chance to explain. I beleve that if it was a case where as I said, only 10% of the minority apps were college grads, the problem is with society, not with the business. If a legit reason can not be shown then I support intervention. (outside of mom and pop businesses and other similiar cases). Chinese and Mexican restuarants are always going to be off from the areas norm. Nothing wrong with that.

Yeah, of course- nobody should be guilty until proven innocent. Although, FYI, in a civil trial it isn't about innocence or guilt and neither side has to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. The standard is "preponderance of the evidence", which means whoever the jury thinks there is a 51% or more chance is right wins.

1Perry said:
It wouldn't at all. If Wal-Mart has a 10% minority workforce in an area that is 45% minority it's not so tough to decide that maybe someone needs to ask why. Why is this so tough to understand?

I really don't get what your argument is with the Wal-Marts. Can you explain in more detail what impact you think that has on our debate?

1Perry said:
No you don't. Now if there was one case, you aren't going to be able to prove much. If there is a history of not hiring minorities it's not tough to prove. As I said, simply numbers will show if there need to be questions asked or not. I fully agree with investigating certain places that hire people but in no way can I support racist policies developed by the government.

No, information about historical statistics about the races of people they hired is generally not admissible. Meaning they can't even bring it up. It sounds like you agree with me that that should change, right? If so, that's great. I think that would go a long ways towards fixing this stuff.

1Perry said:
I'll ask again though.....why is it that Wal-Mart must be non discriminatory but the CBC doesn't have to be? How do you allow an outright racist organization tell others they can not be as racist as they are?

By "CBC" do you mean the black caucus in Congress? If so, they aren't an employer, so none of this would apply to them. Are you saying they're a racist organization? If so, that's some really crazy talk.

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teamosil said:
In the US today if a white person and a black person both apply for the same job with the exact same resume, the white person is 2.4 times more likely to get an interview

yup, and the asian guy is more likely to get the job than the white guy, and he's also more likely to be successful at it (which is perhaps why he is more likely to get it in the first place). when folks start worrying about how the Korean Man is Holding White Folk Down, i'll at least be willing to give them credit for consistency.

Think back through your life. Take out 3 of every 5 jobs you've gotten.

this line of reasoning is one giant "does not follow", but this is worth especially noting. even the state you bring up is not jobs but interviews.

want to know what's really hurting blacks? single parenthood and a failed approach to education. let's focus on solving that before we worry about interview parity.

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cpwill said:
BS: we live in a country marked by high racial inequality due mostly to the choices that our different subcultures make. Everyone so eager to accuse the Dominant White Culture of Racially Holding Back Others due to blacks and hispanics inferior comparative performance skips entirely over the superior performance of Asians. Were the dominant culture actually racist it would continue to hold them back, as it used to. Instead, Asian immigrants continue to have nuclear families, impart strong ethical values centered around respect for others and the importance of education and having a work ethic, and are outperforming every other ethnic group, largely to the degree that said groups stick to those trends. Racism as a major leading Issue Of Our Times is (thankfully) a thing of the past (for now).

If a white person and a black person apply for the same job with the same resume, the white person is 2.4 times as likely to get an interview. So, it clearly isn't just based on actual performance. What it is is people judging individuals based on the color of their skin- racism. Maybe the average performance of a black person is lower for obvious historical reasons, so we would expect employers to hire less black people because they tend to be less qualified. But what this study tells us is that they go way beyond that and even when a black applicant is equally qualified, they still don't hire them. They assume that they will not perform because of the color of their skin. That is what racism is.

cpwill said:
but it sounds like even you would agree that the "the Tea Party wants to lynch black people" line is crap.

Yeah I would.

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