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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    People complain when you do that, right?
    huh??????????
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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    In the context of your "I'm a racist" = someone trying to say what they mean while covering it with supposedly making a point, how do we fit "OBAMA IS A NIGGER" posts.
    I do not follow you - sorry.
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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Isn't about time we moved past such vile, angry bull****?

    Oh wait, I can't say that about the esteemed Rep. Carson, to criticize him, since I am a white male and tea partier, is racist.

    Just reading that filthy dung heaps rant makes my stomach churn in disgust.
    So your way to convince everyone that he is incorrect is to call him a filthy piece of ****? You need to work on your argumentative skillz.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    huh??????????
    he posted that while taking a break from beating his wife
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I do not follow you - sorry.
    Well, you claim that a guy wearing a shirt that reads "Yup, I'm a racist... because the left says so" is actually a racist... no matter what point he is supposedly trying to make. So, what are we to make of your "OBAMA IS A N" post. Are we to excuse it based on context? You wouldn't, and you wrote that you expect us not to:
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I strongly suspect that if I wore a T-shirt that said "I am a freedom killing Marxist" - and then on the back listed reasons why the far right perceives me as such, you and others would focus only on the front of it stating that it reveals truth in the disguise of satire.



    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I have no problem with I HATE OBAMA signs. I have lots of problems with OBAMA IS A NIGGER signs or their equal.
    Wow. What a racist post. Did you buy that post at a TP rally?
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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The fact is....Obama is a racist. The MSM has given him a free ride with statements that would not have been allowed by a white politician
    That's not a fact, it's an unsubstantiated opinion. What's funny is that a lot of Obama's black constituents think he has completely abandoned black issues, so your opinion is pretty ridiculous.

    Another thing....and it isn't just white and black. There is a large portion of the Hispanic population who are more prejudiced against blacks than any segment of the white population.
    There are prejudiced Hispanics, but you saying that they are more so than ANY segment of the white population is silly. See white supremacist groups for more information.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I guess you don't believe in our civil justice system, then, because it is all about making people who have been wronged.
    The justice system applies to those who are directly wronged and directly responsible, not to those who have passed and not either to the descendants of those who did the wrong.

    I should add that I'm not a strong believer in affirmative action. Some of the issues you and RD raise bother me, too.
    There are other remedies that could help a social underclass but which might be even more controversial. It has been said that nothiing has done more to break up Black families, once one of the closest in the nation, than Lyndon Johnson's Great Society programs, and statistics will bear that out. Welfare can destroy a people, and we see that in the UK as well as many other areas of the world. And the victims are not always Blacks. Any young people can be destroyed by a small weekly payment they did not earn. That will kill any person's self esteem.and that can then then easily spread throughout the family..

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There are other remedies that could help a social underclass but which might be even more controversial. It has been said that nothiing has done more to break up Black families, once one of the closest in the nation, than Lyndon Johnson's Great Society programs, and statistics will bear that out. Welfare can destroy a people, and we see that in the UK as well as many other areas of the world. And the victims are not always Blacks. Any young people can be destroyed by a small weekly payment they did not earn. That will kill any person's self esteem.and that can then then easily spread throughout the family..
    So you and others like to talk about PERSONAL responsibility but you're blaming welfare for destroying families. Talk about your contradictions sheeze.

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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It has been said that nothiing has done more to break up Black families, once one of the closest in the nation, than Lyndon Johnson's Great Society programs
    Yeah, right wingers say lots of stuff. The funny thing is, all the theories they cook up somehow all happen to lead up to the conclusion that we should ask less of the wealthy and do less for the poor. Funny coincidence that.
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    Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    I know this is kind of counter-intuitive, but yeah, that's true. Overall the market gives whites a massive preference. If a white job applicant and a black job applicant apply for exactly the same job with exactly the same resume, the white applicant is a shocking 2.4 times more likely to get called up for an interview. That is a massive, overwhelming, disadvantage blacks face, and advantage whites get, just because of the color of their skin.
    Wrong conclusion. This is class discrimination against a small cross-section of the black community, not race discrimination. Look at all of the names that the researchers assigned to blacks. Let's call them ghetto names. Look at all of the names the researchers assigned to whites. Let's call them middle class names.

    What do we discover when we look at the leadership of black professional societies? What kind of names do these black leaders have? Do they have ghetto names or do they have middle class names.

    Here are the board names of the National Association of Black Journalists:


    Gregory Lee, Errin Haines, Bob Butler, Lisa Cox, Keith Reed, Cindy George, Dedrick Russell, A. J. Ross, Michelle Fitzhugh-Craig, Dawn Roberts.


    Here are the names of the leadership of the National Association of Black Accountants:


    Calvin Harris, Jr, Gregory Johnson, Shariah Dixon-Turner, Wayne Lee, Veda Stanley, Walter J. Smith, Ronald P. Walker, Celia Thompkins, Tina O. McIntyre, W. Delores Lewis, Sheila Taylor-Clark, James Brown, Arica Harris, Monica Y. Brame, Charles V. Daniel, Carriea Flowers, Robert Dunlap, Steven L. Harris, Kenneth Cooke, Nora Ramzy, Uso Sayers, Manuel Torres.


    Clearly, even blacks are discriminating against blacks.

    What's really going on is not discrimination based on race, but a sorting based on class. The human resources departments operate on this heuristic because they look about them and likely don't see too many Lakishas and Jamals amongst their black executives and from past experience they've learned when they analyze the resumes of the Lakishas and Jamals, that these applicants were clearly not qualified.

    Even the researchers make note of this alternative explanation, but to know this you'd actually have had to read the study rather than relying on the biased media coverage of the study:


    One simple alternative model is lexicographic search by employers. Employers receive so many resumes that they may use quick heuristics in reading these resumes. One such heuristic could be to simply read no further when they see an African American name. Thus they may never see the skills of African American candidates and this could explain why these skills are not rewarded.

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