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Is not health insurance a state regulatory area and not a federal one? Secondly can not health insurance companies set up subsidiaries in different states in order to sell health insurance in multiple states. Thirdly are there not multiple health insurance providers in nearly all states providing competition
The government in this case is not creating competition but maintaining competition, T Moblie if bought by ATT would no longer be in competition with ATT, as such the current state of competition is being maintained
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Unless they engage in collusion, price fixing etc, illegal activity; government cant just stick its nose into a company.
If they suck, they will get competition. Government shouldnt force market actions, the market will do that by itself.
Im not against competition, I dont think its the government's place to dictate company and market actions.
Like it or not, the "market" is very bad in creating competition once the big players get a certain size. Collusion, cartels and what not, all move to raise the price of entry into said market all in the while the "big players" either set prices instead of market forces. There is no reason the big players to become competitive if there is very little possibility for external potential competitors to get access to the market.
That is the point.. they wont if the market is skewed towards the big players..which the telecommunications market is. The cost of entry into the telecommunications market in the US is huge, which is why the big mobile telecommunications companies in the world would rather buy one of the big companies (Verizon is owned by Vodafone) than set up their own networks. This cost of entry is due to regulations and rules often put in place to protect the status quo instead of promoting competition. Some where in this thread someone stated that there was 180 mobile phone operators in the US.. considering the size of the US, that is very low... that is like 3ish per state. I have at least 10 providers here in Spain, that not only are regional but many cover the whole country.If they suck, they will get competition.
While this is a good and pretty thing in a text book and theories and are based on the idea that there are many small competitors in a market and no big mega corporation. Now reality is a whole different ball of twine.. since most markets have one or two big companies and a bunch of small ones and that creates very little competition, especially if the big companies defacto work together on pricing and keeping new competition out of the markets. Like it or not, if the market is left on its own, there is trend towards becoming a monopoly and any method (including buying politicians to set the rules for you) will be used to gain this power base...Government shouldnt force market actions, the market will do that by itself.
Sorry to burst you bubble, but the "government" has been doing that for many decades when it comes to the US telecommunications market (and other markets). Regional monopolies, regulation that prevents competition and so on and so on. There is a reason most American's have so little choice when it comes to getting internet and it is industry friendly regulations and rules put in place by your politicians on behalf of the industry. If your politicians were the patriots and "men/women of the people" they claim they are, then they would force whole industries into more competition... telecommunications, news media, air lines, steel, medical and big pharma and so on.Im not against competition, I dont think its the government's place to dictate company and market actions.
Regulation that promotes competition is good regulation.
This isn't about Jobs. That's a teaser.
It's Not about Bandwidth. There's plenty.
It's about YOU T-Mobile customers who pay easily the lowest rates and have economical plans.
AT&T is offering $39 Billion for a company that doesn't make money (!!), because eventually they will Make YOU pay much more.
The deal makes No sense otherwise.
Most in the biz community, many customers, and DOJ, know this is the Real reason.
That's why they're blocking it.
With Sprint on the ropes (but still not really discounting), and T-mob bought we Would be looking at a Two company Cartel; Verizon and AT&T.
The rates are already Not competitive and don't have the low cost T-mobile plans.
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You see that statement as a solution, I see it as a problem and that is where we differ. Government should be restricted by laws just as much as a citizen or company.Of course they can. Government can do anything it wants.
Government shouldnt simply do whatever it wants.
I think that even most people who are skeptical of government accept that one its legitimate functions is policing monopolies.