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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    yeah, how dare these thugs protect their property from fine upstanding individuals like this innocent victim
    Way to mischaracterize....although why am I surprized? If you read what I wrote...I didn't say anything about them being "fine upstanding innocent victims", quite the contrary. But in your dishonest reply I guess you couldn't respond without spinning the facts.

    The bottom line is that you have no right under our system of laws to protect "property" with lethal force. Sorry...but that's the American way. Love it or leave it.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    I'm simply pointing out that based on the information in the article (i.e. the only information we have), it is my biased opinion that these guys are murderers. It's not that complicated.


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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Only to rational people who believe that vigilante justice has no place in a civilized society.
    Im betting you arent going to find very many people that would change their mind on anything with the facts in this case. Plenty of folk that already have their mind made up. I doubt people will hear meth addict, armed with three knives, repeat offenses, multiple robberies with intent to score more drugs, business owners, no results from police, protecting their family business that they managed build despite all the excuse and hardships citizens want to cry about, and decide..."say...THIS is why there should be more gun control."

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Since this is a civil suit, the award should be tossed out. The suit claims the $269,500 was for factors such as loss of companionship and loss of future earnings. Seriously? Companionship...while dood was in prison? Loss of earnings? Based on these factors alone the owners of those business did that family a favor.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    unless you are convicted you are not a murderer.
    Now that's an interesting philosophical position. It's kind of like, if a tree falls in the forest, and no one's around to see it, is the guy who cut it down still liable for the property damage? ****, that's a toughie.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Actually it is in many cases. You do not have the right to use lethal force to counter a non-lethal situation.
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    So you want homeowners and proper owners to wait until they are stabbed or shot before using lethal force? You do not know for sure what threat a burglar poses.


    There is more lee-way when it is a residence.
    It doesn't matter if it is a business or a residence. A man(or woman) has the right to defend themselves and their property against others and use lethal force to do so. This is how you keep burglaries down.

    This was a business. This is really a case of a couple of thugs seeking to extract revenge on the next person that burglarized their business. The dead man and his friend were certainly not fine upstanding citizens, however, that doesn't change the actions of the two thugs in question here.
    It looks to me like a couple of business owners trying to defend their livelihood against a bunch of scumbags and a dumbass judge and a retarded jury sided with a piece of ****'s family. I hope these property owners take their case to a competent court and win.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Since this is a civil suit, the award should be tossed out. The suit claims the $269,500 was for factors such as loss of companionship and loss of future earnings. Seriously? Companionship...while dood was in prison? Loss of earnings? Based on these factors alone the owners of those business did that family a favor.
    loss of future earnings? what future earnings? shouldn't they have worded it honestly? "proceeds of future criminal actions"
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Now that's an interesting philosophical position. It's kind of like, if a tree falls in the forest, and no one's around to see it, is the guy who cut it down still liable for the property damage? ****, that's a toughie.
    my bad..I thought we were talking about the actual legal definition of "murderer" and not your own personal opinion on the matter
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    loss of future earnings? what future earnings? shouldn't they have worded it honestly? "proceeds of future criminal actions"
    I think the Green leaning folks should give these guys an award...look how much carbon they saved the planet.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    loss of future earnings? what future earnings? shouldn't they have worded it honestly? "proceeds of future criminal actions"
    No family member wants to be the one to actually pull the plug on the life support machine. Better let the doctor be the bad guy. These guys saved that family of lifetime of hardship.

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