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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    were painted as =/= are, go figure
    Well, as most trials go, those that are not there do not know what is presented and what isn't. You weren't there, neither was I. I respect the jury's decision, I'm sure they don't coddle theifs, just following the law, and it is unlawful to take the law into your own hands.



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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Well, as most trials go, those that are not there do not know what is presented and what isn't. You weren't there, neither was I. I respect the jury's decision, I'm sure they don't coddle theifs, just following the law, and it is unlawful to take the law into your own hands.
    if these guys were the murderous vigilantes you want them to be, the criminal court would've put them in jail.

    or do you only respect the the decisions of juries that agree with you?
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Spewing insults? Try reading a few posts up...or is this selective amnesia where all double-digit IQ liberals identify faults in enemies and perfection in friends?

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Jesus does not equivocate with his bullwhip!

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    Which completely undermines the concept of property rights. If you can't use lethal force, then all attempts to detain, stop, or run off would be burglars are empty bluffs.

    Let me give you a hypothetical (And admittedly unlikely) scenario. I wake up in the middle of the night and hear strange sounds coming from my living room. I grab my gun and go to investigate. I see a man in my living room grabbing my TV. I pull me gun out and order him to stop. He looks at me, smirks and says, "You can't shoot me. That's murder," and then turns his back to me, picks up my TV and walks out the door.

    What am I supposed to do? Just watch the guy go and then call the police so they can document the theft after the fact and I can hope they stumble onto the thief at some later date. (Because let's be honest a stolen TV isn't going to be a top priority case for many departments). Can I shoot him after he ignores my order to stop? Even though his back is to me? Can I tackle him and risk initiating a physical confrontation with a man who's physical abilities are unknown to me and who may or may not be armed himself?
    Sadly, in many states, you would technically have to "let the police handle it." My dad recently had his workshop broken into and thousands of dollars worth of equipment stolen. Equipment, btw, that he had save for months in order to afford to buy. He did not have insurance on it, either. He called the police. They came by, wrote up a report, and left. I'm sorry but that's not handling a god damn thing. My dad could have wrote a report himself. **** that. The next time, you can bet he will be ready to shoot those ****ers instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Actually you do not have the right to defend your property with lethal force.
    That depends on what state one is in.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    Which completely undermines the concept of property rights. If you can't use lethal force, then all attempts to detain, stop, or run off would be burglars are empty bluffs.

    Let me give you a hypothetical (And admittedly unlikely) scenario. I wake up in the middle of the night and hear strange sounds coming from my living room. I grab my gun and go to investigate. I see a man in my living room grabbing my TV. I pull me gun out and order him to stop. He looks at me, smirks and says, "You can't shoot me. That's murder," and then turns his back to me, picks up my TV and walks out the door.

    What am I supposed to do? Just watch the guy go and then call the police so they can document the theft after the fact and I can hope they stumble onto the thief at some later date. (Because let's be honest a stolen TV isn't going to be a top priority case for many departments). Can I shoot him after he ignores my order to stop? Even though his back is to me? Can I tackle him and risk initiating a physical confrontation with a man who's physical abilities are unknown to me and who may or may not be armed himself?
    Kill him--if they break into a home at night the presumption is they know the home is occupied. That gives you the right to use deadly force.



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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I know. It's not for you to judge whether a man is worthy of death.
    In my mind it is the victim who has judged themselves worthy of death by choosing to break into my home or attempt to mug me.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    So you're walking down the street one day. You notice a dollar bill in my yard just off the parking strip. You step into my yard and pick it up to take it. It's right then and there that I'll blow your ass to kingdom come. And in your compassionate conservative way you think you had it coming?

    You can't make this **** up.
    In my mind the dollar bill is unnecessary to your analogy. The moment you step onto my property I should be able to blow you away.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    if these guys were the murderous vigilantes you want them to be, the criminal court would've put them in jail.

    or do you only respect the the decisions of juries that agree with you?
    The point...the one you keep missing... it's unlawful to play policeman.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    In my mind it is the victim who has judged themselves worthy of death by choosing to break into my home or attempt to mug me.
    You might be happier in a less civilized country. The U.S., we're too modern for you.

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