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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT
    No, you can't shoot him if the only thing you're worried about is him taking your TV. We don't have the death penalty for property theft.
    Watch me. I shoot him and I walk away scott-free. Nobody could hear him say that. When the police arrive, all they'll see is a man they believe is shaken up, putting on an Oscar-winning performance in front of a corpse with the intention of robbing and maybe killing him. Maybe I thought he had a weapon and began to pull it on me. Maybe he said a death threat to me.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Watch me. I shoot him and I walk away scott-free. Nobody could hear him say that. When the police arrive, all they'll see is a man they believe is shaken up, putting on an Oscar-winning performance in front of a corpse with the intention of robbing and maybe killing him. Maybe I thought he had a weapon and began to pull it on me. Maybe he said a death threat to me.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Yeah, but not a "good" one, I guess. Of course, then again, if you read the Bible you'll see a very, VERY violent book. So who knows?

    Spare me the "what would Jesus do" banter, please.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Watch me. I shoot him and I walk away scott-free. Nobody could hear him say that. When the police arrive, all they'll see is a man they believe is shaken up, putting on an Oscar-winning performance in front of a corpse with the intention of robbing and maybe killing him. Maybe I thought he had a weapon and began to pull it on me. Maybe he said a death threat to me.

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    that's why I have several "unregistered" handguns with the serial numbers filed off. you just never know when you might need a drop weapon. "see officer, there is a gun in his dead hand. he was going to shoot me, I had no choice but to shoot him first"
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    You know, I almost mentioned something about that, but I figured if they were ever to search your home, you might have some explaining. However, I guess if you don't go out robbing and holding people up, you're safe. Fourth Amendment rights and all. But damn, that can get expensive, especially if you get robbed semi-often.

    Personally I think you can just get away with a sob story in front of a felonious corpse. Then again, I'm cheap. Guns aren't.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Yeah, but not a "good" one, I guess. Of course, then again, if you read the Bible you'll see a very, VERY violent book. So who knows?
    I know. It's not for you to judge whether a man is worthy of death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Spare me the "what would Jesus do" banter, please.
    Your loss.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Yeah, but not a "good" one, I guess. Of course, then again, if you read the Bible you'll see a very, VERY violent book. So who knows?

    Spare me the "what would Jesus do" banter, please.
    Yep, it is a pretty obscure point -- pretty hard to interpret: "Thou shalt not kill...."
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Watch me. I shoot him and I walk away scott-free. Nobody could hear him say that. When the police arrive, all they'll see is a man they believe is shaken up, putting on an Oscar-winning performance in front of a corpse with the intention of robbing and maybe killing him. Maybe I thought he had a weapon and began to pull it on me. Maybe he said a death threat to me.

    When I walk out of court, watch me live it up at T.G.I. Fridays. Better luck next time, counsel.

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    You could also walk up behind a stranger in a deserted alley and put two behind his ear and probably get away with it. But that doesn't make it legal or ethical.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Did burglars trespass and were attempting to steal from the property owner? Yes? then I would say the property owner was justified in using lethal force.
    So you're walking down the street one day. You notice a dollar bill in my yard just off the parking strip. You step into my yard and pick it up to take it. It's right then and there that I'll blow your ass to kingdom come. And in your compassionate conservative way you think you had it coming?

    You can't make this **** up.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yep, it is a pretty obscure point -- pretty hard to interpret: "Thou shalt not kill...."
    Actually it is thou shalt not murder. Thou shalt not kill is a mistranslation. Because if you bothered to read other parts of the bible you would know that they had the death penalty for various offenses, killing is permitted in certain situations and occasionally they engaged in warfare. In the King James version of the bible in the new Testament Jesus uses the word murder not killing.Both of these things indicates that the King James translation messed up on Exodus 20:13.

    Matthew 19:18 KJV - He saith unto him Which Jesus said Thou - Bible Gateway
    8He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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