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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Did you not read your own article?

    A couple of hayseeds tried to play cop and gunned down an unarmed man. (unless you count the pocket knife)...

    Thankfully, parts of Texas do seem to be catching up with the modern world. The jury did the right thing.

    These yahoos should be in jail. Thanks to the NRA, idiots like this try live out some Western movie fantasy. Shoot-out at the white trash junk yard.
    Did you read the article? i would hardly consider three knives as "unarmed."
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Did you read the article? i would hardly consider three knives as "unarmed."


    One in the pocket, one taped to a leg. Sound like a homeless junkie trying to boost some parts to support a drug habit.

    I guess when one scaled a fence to get away and the other hid in shed, the must of looked oh so very threatening...

    Here's what you do:

    1) Pick up the phone

    2) Dial 911 - tell them there are two men trespassing on your property.

    3) Go back to watching Fox News.

    Again, it's not the old west. You don't ambush rustlers and string 'em up.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    This is the last time I'm going to say this:

    I am challenging you to demonstrate to me using the facts that we have available and the statutes at issue that what these men did was not murder. No more appeals to authority. They are wearing thin, and I've already pointed out many, many times why this particular authority is not particularly useful.

    I've provided you with the relevant statutes. Use the facts and the law to tell me why you think I'm wrong.
    Your opinion is irrelelvent in this matter. If they were murders they would be in prison right now. You seem to forget that murder is nothing more than a legal technicality and these men do not meet that legal definition.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    The challenge was to use the facts and the law to demonstrate why what these guys did was not murder. Are you going to address this or would you like to continue posturing?
    I am pretty sure that the people who decide whether or not to do a criminal trial are actual experts on the law. The fact that these experts on the law did not go through with criminal trial or even offer a plea deal means that these experts on the law know that these men did not commit murder. You keep whining about facts but you keep ignoring the fact the shop owners did not go through a criminal trial.

    If these men are murders do honestly think that who ever decides whether or not to go through a criminal trial is going to ignore such a case? Murder is a pretty big deal. There is evidence that one of the shop owners killed one of the burglars, there is also a confession, there is a witness and motive. This would be a slam dunk case for the prosecutor if was illegal for shop owners to use lethal force to defend their property including shops.
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    One in the pocket, one taped to a leg. Sound like a homeless junkie trying to boost some parts to support a drug habit.

    I guess when one scaled a fence to get away and the other hid in shed, the must of looked oh so very threatening...

    Here's what you do:

    1) Pick up the phone

    2) Dial 911 - tell them there are two men trespassing on your property.

    3) Go back to watching Fox News.

    Again, it's not the old west. You don't ambush rustlers and string 'em up.
    1) Pick up my gun

    2) lock and load

    3) shoot the ****er

    This may not be the old west, but I have every right to defend myself, my family, and my property.

    btw, Fox news sucks.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    One in the pocket, one taped to a leg. Sound like a homeless junkie trying to boost some parts to support a drug habit.

    I guess when one scaled a fence to get away and the other hid in shed, the must of looked oh so very threatening...

    Here's what you do:

    1) Pick up the phone

    2) Dial 911 - tell them there are two men trespassing on your property.

    3) Go back to watching Fox News.

    Again, it's not the old west. You don't ambush rustlers and string 'em up.
    another potential dem voter down the toilet.

    we need to make this sort of action legal. saves tax dollars, and deters crime



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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Your opinion is irrelelvent in this matter. If they were murders they would be in prison right now. You seem to forget that murder is nothing more than a legal technicality and these men do not meet that legal definition.
    Murder is a legal technicality! Nice.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Murder is a legal technicality! Nice.
    Wrongful-death =/= murder.

    It's not even negligent manslaughter.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    This may not be the old west, but I have every right to defend myself, my family, and my property.
    Actually you do not have the right to defend your property with lethal force.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Wrongful-death =/= murder.

    It's not even negligent manslaughter.
    It appears to have been the ulawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought, i.e. murder in the first degree. It was, at minimum, second degree murder.

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