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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    guy decides to get high on meth
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    guy decides to break onto another person's property


    and he is the victim


    guy decides to shoot the high, armed criminal and he is a murderer


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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It's a strange world where some of the citizens of the "Land of the Free" think that death is a reasonable punishment for attempted petty theft of a car stereo.
    Ain't that the truth. Too many people grew up watching too many Dirty Harry movies.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    A jury isn't THE people -- it is nine *particular* people. If every group of nine particular people thinks it's okay to make up the law as it goes along, we've got a real problem.
    They are the representation of the People, which is brought to weight crime and law. It is why they are "of our peers".
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Just as an aside, some of y'all don't seem to realize that there is no double jeapordy effect to a grand jury bill. If the prosecutor chooses to he can still seek an indictment from the same or another grand jury.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    They are the representation of the People, which is brought to weight crime and law. It is why they are "of our peers".
    Well that's all very symbolic, but in actual fact they are just nine individuals who may not represent the desire of THE PEOPLE in any way, shape, or form.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Just as an aside, some of y'all don't seem to realize that there is no double jeapordy effect to a grand jury bill. If the prosecutor chooses to he can still seek an indictment from the same or another grand jury.
    Good point.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    I guess what I don't get is where the conclusion comes from that "the circumstances in the grand jury were more favorable to the prosecution". It wouldn't seem like it to me. A man, high on drugs and carrying multiple concealed weapons, was shot and killed during an attempt of grand theft auto. Can someone please explain to me where it would be more favorable for this man over victimized private property owners? I mean, the mere fact that Eminent Domain exists screams how the government is anti-landowner, but this is bordering on ridiculous.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    And yet strangely, in circumstances more favorable to the defendants (and using the same standard of proof), another jury did find that they unlawfully and intentionally shot and killed someone without a valid defense.
    No, they found that the defendants were on some level liable for the death. Civil courts can only decide liability, not criminality of act.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Just as an aside, some of y'all don't seem to realize that there is no double jeapordy effect to a grand jury bill. If the prosecutor chooses to he can still seek an indictment from the same or another grand jury.
    and what, other than your obvious smug know-it-all-ness, has given any indication that "some of ya'll" don't realize this?

    double jeopardy, can't be tried for the same crime twice. if you were never tried.... duh
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It's a strange world where some of the citizens of the "Land of the Free" think that death is a reasonable punishment for attempted petty theft of a car stereo.
    Who here said it is?

    I dont think its a reasonable punishment had he been caught down the street or taken to trail.

    Thats NOT what happened though, what happened is that this degenerate got caught in the act and got himself shot by people defending their property because this armed junkie couldn't be trusted. Hazard of being a high armed trespasser

    I dont think breaking an entering should be lawfully punished by death either but if while you are breaking and entering some old lady blows your head off too bad, should have kept your ass out her house and the confusion on whether "you were a threat or not" would never come into play.
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