Page 48 of 111 FirstFirst ... 3846474849505898 ... LastLast
Results 471 to 480 of 1109

Thread: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

  1. #471
    Farts in Elevators
    OscarB63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Alabama
    Last Seen
    09-06-14 @ 07:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    26,526

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Hmm, just looking at Colorado's self defense statute, and it's actually pretty deadly for the defendants here:

    "3. Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (1) of this section, a person is not justified in using physical force if:

    ...

    (b.) He is the initial aggressor, except that his use of physical force upon another person under the circumstances is justifiable if he withdraws from the encounter and effectively communicates to the other person his intent to do so, but the latter nevertheless continues or threatens the use of unlawful physical force...."


    I haven't seen anything to suggest that the burglars did anything but run away when they were confronted.
    the property owners were not the initial aggressor, so this is irrelevent
    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

  2. #472
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:43 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    44,827

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    seems to me that two lawyers should know a little bit more about how the law actually works.
    You would think, then again theres lawyers out there that dont give a **** about the law they just want to know how to GAME it. They dont actually want to use it with integrity, just look at the dishonesty that has been posted in this thread. Its pathetic! lol THATS whats wrong with the system.
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

  3. #473
    Guru
    Aderleth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Last Seen
    04-08-16 @ 06:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    4,294

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    the property owners were not the initial aggressor, so this is irrelevent
    Yes they were. Unless you're suggesting that we have evidence that the shooting victim or his buddy attacked the property owners.

  4. #474
    Sage
    AdamT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    02-13-13 @ 04:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    17,773

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Juries make bad decisions because lawyers monkey with the make up of a jury of peers to get a jury which is more sympathetic to their case.
    Well, that generally balances out since both sides are looking for the jurors most likely to favor their side.

    Bad decisions can result from many factors: poor attorneys on one or both sides, subject matter too complex for jury to grasp, personality conflicts in the jury, one or more jurors who are simply irrational, etc., etc.

    As I adverted to above, my wife was on a murder jury where one of the jurors decided the defendant was guilty because she had prayed on it and God said the kid was guilty.

  5. #475
    Farts in Elevators
    OscarB63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Alabama
    Last Seen
    09-06-14 @ 07:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    26,526

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Yes they were. Unless you're suggesting that we have evidence that the shooting victim or his buddy attacked the property owners.
    depends on your definition of aggressor. If you break onto my property, that is an aggressive action. by illegally forcing their way into the property they became the initial aggressor. and you still want to try to claim you aren't defending them

    the mere fact that the "victim" and his buddy were there to commit a crime makes them the aggressor.
    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

  6. #476
    Sage
    AdamT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    02-13-13 @ 04:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    17,773

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    You would think, then again theres lawyers out there that dont give a **** about the law they just want to know how to GAME it. They dont actually want to use it with integrity, just look at the dishonesty that has been posted in this thread. Its pathetic! lol THATS whats wrong with the system.
    Quite the opposite, in fact. The lawyers here are simply arguing that the law should have been applied as written. You and the others are arguing that you don't like what the law says and don't think that it should have been followed.

  7. #477
    Sage
    AdamT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    02-13-13 @ 04:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    17,773

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    depends on your definition of aggressor. If you break onto my property, that is an aggressive action. by illegally forcing their way into the property they became the initial aggressor. and you still want to try to claim you aren't defending them

    the mere fact that the "victim" and his buddy were there to commit a crime makes them the aggressor.
    You're playing word games. Aggressor simply means a person who attacks you physically.

  8. #478
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:43 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    44,827

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Quite the opposite, in fact. The lawyers here are simply arguing that the law should have been applied as written. You and the others are arguing that you don't like what the law says and don't think that it should have been followed.
    what are you talking about? LMAO
    DO you make things up this often or just in this thread?

    MORE DISHONESTY from you LOL
    you are so blind to it you cant even see it
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

  9. #479
    Farts in Elevators
    OscarB63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Alabama
    Last Seen
    09-06-14 @ 07:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    26,526

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You're playing word games. Aggressor simply means a person who attacks you physically.
    again...opinion

    Aggressor \Ag*gres"sor\, n. [L.: cf. F. agresseur.]
    The person who first attacks or makes an aggression; he who
    begins hostility or a quarrel
    ; an assailant.
    by breaking into the property the "victim" and his buddy began the hostility and are therefore the initial aggressors. cry some more for the dirty methhead criminals
    Last edited by OscarB63; 08-30-11 at 05:19 PM.
    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

  10. #480
    Farts in Elevators
    OscarB63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Alabama
    Last Seen
    09-06-14 @ 07:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    26,526

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Quite the opposite, in fact. The lawyers here are simply arguing that the law should have been applied as written. You and the others are arguing that you don't like what the law says and don't think that it should have been followed.

    wrong, the alleged lawyers here just don't like the outcome. they think these guys should be in jail and the law be damned.
    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

Page 48 of 111 FirstFirst ... 3846474849505898 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •