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You think reasonable is an objective term? Seriously?Originally Posted by AdamT
Quit looking at this from a vacuum perspective. When you take into account all the variables - shroud of night, current drug abuse, concealed weapons, felony crime committed on private property - the definition of "reasonable" gets skewed.
Seriously, all this does is show that the legal system needs an overhaul. Our forefathers knew better than this. Jefferson shot people at the White House for less.
"18-1-706 - Use of physical force in defense of property.
A person is justified in using reasonable and appropriate physical force upon another person when and to the extent that he reasonably believes it necessary to prevent what he reasonably believes to be an attempt by the other person to commit theft, criminal mischief, or criminal tampering involving property, but he may use deadly physical force under these circumstances only in defense of himself or another as described in section 18-1-704." [emphasis added]
It also says so in the article you posted.
"(2) Deadly physical force may be used only if a person reasonably believes a lesser degree of force is inadequate and:
(a) The actor has reasonable ground to believe, and does believe, that he or another person is in imminent danger of being killed or of receiving great bodily injury"
Do we have any indication, any at all, that the shooting victim was attacking, or was about to attack his shooters when he was shot?
that can be impacted by how the subjects felt
OR by how the jury would feel those people felt
Or by how the jury would feel in the same situation knowing how they felt
or how the jury would feel an "objective reasonable person" would feel in said situation.
bottom line like i said it absolutely matters it just isnt the END ALL to the decision but it matters.
example if "I" used self defense because I was bed ridden after two knee surgeries so i FELT cornered and threatened because I cant "fight or flight" an intruder are you telling me my feelings about being trapped dont matter?
well you would be wrong
it matters, it just isnt the ONLY factor