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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    IOW, the poor drug addict who broke onto the property, armed with 3 knives posed no threat. yeah, no way that could be taken as defending him.
    You've got to work on your reading comprehension, there, buddy. I didn't say that he posed no threat (we have no way of knowing what his intentions were, although it seems fairly likely that he intended to steal car stereos then run away), I said that they had no reasonable basis for believing that he posed a threat at the time he was shot. Remember, the knives were not visible, and he certainly wasn't using them in a threatening manner.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    They weren't indicted by the grand jury. Not the same thing. Also a somewhat strange thing in this context, because a petite jury did find them guilty using the same standard of evidence, and after weighing the evidence in their favor (which the grand jury did not and could not do). In other words the jury with access to the evidence most favorable to the murderers held them liable, whereas the jury (the grand jury) that had access only to the evidence against them chose not to indict. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
    Actually, it's a petit jury, not a petite jury.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    You've got to work on your reading comprehension, there, buddy. I didn't say that he posed no threat (we have no way of knowing what his intentions were, although it seems fairly likely that he intended to steal car stereos then run away), I said that they had no reasonable basis for believing that he posed a threat at the time he was shot. Remember, the knives were not visible, and he certainly wasn't using them in a threatening manner.
    Do these guys have a ChipIn or any kind of fundraiser to help pay the $300K? I would like to donate.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Actually, it's a petit jury, not a petite jury.
    Oops. Typo.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Forget CCW classes, here in SD we're trying to get rid of the entire license.
    That's a good subject of another thread. You shouldn't need a license to exercise a fundamental right.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    My guess is that the prosector wasn't too interested in trying the killer and therefore didn't put on a particularly inspired presentation to the jury. After all, if he had really wanted to charge the killer he could have requested a preliminary hearing before a judge rather than going to the grand jury. It's far more likely that a judge would have found probable cause to indict.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Certainly not if you define murder as requiring criminal conviction. I guess you could also say that the guy who was shot wasn't a burglar, because he wasn't convicted of burglary.
    true but he was a drug addict
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Oops. Typo.
    It's all good.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    true but he was a drug addict
    Apparently. But people have been known to beat drug addictions ... provided they haven't been shot through the heart first.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    You've got to work on your reading comprehension, there, buddy. I didn't say that he posed no threat (we have no way of knowing what his intentions were, although it seems fairly likely that he intended to steal car stereos then run away), I said that they had no reasonable basis for believing that he posed a threat at the time he was shot. Remember, the knives were not visible, and he certainly wasn't using them in a threatening manner.
    fortunately for them, the facts and the jury were at odds with your opinion
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