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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Only because he died.

    That would be absolutely hilarious - and proper - if these owners took his executors and estate to civil court and was awarded similar punitive damages. Wouldn't that be great?

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Certainly not if you define murder as requiring criminal conviction. I guess you could also say that the guy who was shot wasn't a burglar, because he wasn't convicted of burglary.
    oh lord more dishonesty from you. Could you possible be any more dishonest?
    Again please tell me your age its tough to believe that you any older than 14?

    do you have anything of substance or facts to back you claims up or will you just continue to play games LMAO
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    oh lord more dishonesty from you. Could you possible be any more dishonest?
    Again please tell me your age its tough to believe that you any older than 14?

    do you have anything of substance or facts to back you claims up or will you just continue to play games LMAO
    Unfortunately this kind of post actually makes you sound like you're 14. And not a particularly bright 14 at that.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Only because he died.

    That would be absolutely hilarious - and proper - if these owners took his executors and estate to civil court and was awarded similar punitive damages. Wouldn't that be great?
    yes it would be great! I think they should do it.
    They should sue for mental anguish and endangerment.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    because they werent charged with murder thats how so lol
    They weren't indicted by the grand jury. Not the same thing. Also a somewhat strange thing in this context, because a petite jury did find them guilty using the same standard of evidence, and after weighing the evidence in their favor (which the grand jury did not and could not do). In other words the jury with access to the evidence most favorable to the murderers held them liable, whereas the jury (the grand jury) that had access only to the evidence against them chose not to indict. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.


    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    what THEY felt IS relevant. Sorry but the FACTS remain it DOES matter what they think. Now there is a LIMIT and the police could overrule them and charge them and then a jury would agree with them or agree with the police IF they were charged but the police DID NOT charge them. Bottom line is what they think DOES matter PERIOD its just not the END ALL to right/wrong.
    Their subjective belief is not relevant to the legal standard for self defense. Take a look at any textbook on criminal law and you'll find that I'm right.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Unfortunately this kind of post actually makes you sound like you're 14. And not a particularly bright 14 at that.
    WOW now you have nothing to offer but failed attempts to insult LMAO
    how did I know that was next usually is when people have nothing left

    seriously, can you back up your false claims in anyway what so ever? We've all been waiting. I mean dont get me wrong its very entertaining watching you dodge and ignore facts and questions, twist the truth, be dishonest and argue things that are meaningless but it be nice if you had something of substance to debate too.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    they should be in prison.

    Under Colorado’s self-defense laws, the use of deadly force is justified only under the “reasonable belief” that it’s necessary to prevent serious bodily injury or death. The jury found that none of the men had a legitimate claim of self-defense.

    that said, his parents should be smacked for believing their son was "just in the wrong place at the wrong time"....imo, people who break the law should always expect consequences.
    the civil jury found... the grand jury on the criminal side apparently felt that the men had "reasonable belief", otherwise there would have been a trial whether people like it or not, the grand jury didn't think these guys were murderers
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    I know this reply was on the first page, but I did want to say that does not justify lethal force. Obviously, you've never been through a concealed weapons class. You CANNOT use deadly force to defend property or stop someone from trespassing on your land. Only if they break into your home where you reside or they attempt to harm you or someone else personally can you use deadly force. For instance, someone was charged with murder for shooting someone dead trying to steal his jet ski. The guys life wasn't in danger so he committed murder.

    I don't agree with it, but it's the way it is. You kill someone trying to steal your car out of your driveway and you'd be lucky to only do 15 years in the clink. However, if you are IN THE VEHICLE when this occurs, put a bullet in the bastards head. But don't put one in the BACK of his head while he's under the dash trying to hotwire it when you aren't in the vehicle. However, if upon discovering he's been caught and he brandishes a weapon, any weapon worse than a screwdriver, put a bullet in his head. He is, at that point, considered armed and dangerous and you have a right to confront him (at least in Louisiana) on your property. He cannot pull a weapon without the risk of being killed. But if he just takes off running when you catch him, you can't shoot in the back. That's murder.
    Forget CCW classes, here in SD we're trying to get rid of the entire license.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    I'd like to see where I actually used that phrase. Please point it out for me.

    I've been pointing out that there was no valid basis for a self defense argument. Put another way, the three guys had no actual basis for believing that they were being threatened with deadly force.
    IOW, the poor drug addict who broke onto the property, armed with 3 knives posed no threat. yeah, no way that could be taken as defending him.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and who gets to decide if YOU feel that YOU are in eminent danger?
    A jury.

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