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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    It is illegal in the jurisdiction in which this occurred to use lethal force to defend property, and as I've pointed out numerous times, they had no valid reason to believe they were under threat of a deadly assault. In fact, by their own admission (according to the article) they made up their mind to shoot whoever the next intruder was well in advance of that intruder actually being shot.

    As I asked you to do before, look at the facts that we have available, and compare them to the statutory definition of self-defense. Their actions do not comport with that definition. Intentionally killing a human being absent some valid defense (such as self defense) is murder. Ergo they committed murder.
    criminal law disagrees with your opinion
    YOU have no way of knowing if they felt they had valid reason or felt they could be under deadly assault/
    None, zero, zilch

    its merely a GUESS on your part, an assumption

    theres no evidence to support they committed murder

    ERGO thats why they weren't charged with murder LMAO

    FACT: no murder was committed
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    criminal law disagrees with your opinion
    How so?

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    YOU have no way of knowing if they felt they had valid reason or felt they could be under deadly assult/
    None, zero, zilch
    What they felt is irrelevant. The legal standard is whether or not they had an objectively reasonable basis for belief that they were under impending threat of death or imminent bodily harm. Based on the facts available, they did not have any such objectively reasonable basis.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    they should be in prison.

    Under Colorado’s self-defense laws, the use of deadly force is justified only under the “reasonable belief” that it’s necessary to prevent serious bodily injury or death. The jury found that none of the men had a legitimate claim of self-defense.

    that said, his parents should be smacked for believing their son was "just in the wrong place at the wrong time"....imo, people who break the law should always expect consequences.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    If I had the money, I would donate to their cause. I wouldn't mind a petition/donation set up to let the people know that property rights activists and people whose heart doesn't bleed for a squished ant side with and advocate for their right to defend what is theirs.

    I'd also kick in a little extra if they spit on that thief's grave.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    How so?



    What they felt is irrelevant. The legal standard is whether or not they had an objectively reasonable basis for belief that they were under impending threat of death or imminent bodily harm. Based on the facts available, they did not have any such objectively reasonable basis.
    because they werent charged with murder thats how so lol

    what THEY felt IS relevant. Sorry but the FACTS remain it DOES matter what they think. Now there is a LIMIT and the police could overrule them and charge them and then a jury would agree with them or agree with the police IF they were charged but the police DID NOT charge them. Bottom line is what they think DOES matter PERIOD its just not the END ALL to right/wrong.

    What IS irrelevant is what YOU think they felt and what YOU think is resaonable.

    why?
    because:
    1 you're not them
    2 you werent there
    3 you werent a witness
    4 since they werent charged you not a juror

    LMAO

    your OPINION is meaningless and they are NOT murders
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    they should be in prison.

    Under Colorado’s self-defense laws, the use of deadly force is justified only under the “reasonable belief” that it’s necessary to prevent serious bodily injury or death. The jury found that none of the men had a legitimate claim of self-defense.

    that said, his parents should be smacked for believing their son was "just in the wrong place at the wrong time"....imo, people who break the law should always expect consequences.
    wrong

    again thats YOUR opinion and interpretation and assumption
    also that was the out come in CIVIL court.
    Criminal court is what is needed to put them in jail for murder and it was deceided theres not even enough to take it to trail.

    When these facts change let me know and only than could you be right.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    If I had the money, I would donate to their cause. I wouldn't mind a petition/donation set up to let the people know that property rights activists and people whose heart doesn't bleed for a squished ant side with and advocate for their right to defend what is theirs.

    I'd also kick in a little extra if they spit on that thief's grave.
    I said this a couple times earlier, if I had the 300K Id give it to them for doing us all a favor.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    because they werent charged with murder thats how so lol

    what THEY felt IS relevant. Sorry but the FACTS remain it DOES matter what they think. Now there is a LIMIT and the police could overrule them and charge them and then a jury would agree with them or agree with the police IF they were charged but the police DID NOT charge them. Bottom line is what they think DOES matter PERIOD its just not the END ALL to right/wrong.

    What IS irrelevant is what YOU think they felt and what YOU think is resaonable.

    why?
    because:
    1 you're not them
    2 you werent there
    3 you werent a witness
    4 since they werent charged you not a juror

    LMAO

    your OPINION is meaningless and they are NOT murders
    it's true, most opinions matter not at all.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it's true, most opinions matter not at all.
    yep, very true, even most of my opinions dont matter but fortunately the facts line up with SOME of my opinions in this case. And they most definitely agree with the fact that there was no murder.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    yep, very true, even most of my opinions dont matter but fortunately the facts line up with SOME of my opinions in this case. And the most definitely agree with the fact that there was no murder.
    Certainly not if you define murder as requiring criminal conviction. I guess you could also say that the guy who was shot wasn't a burglar, because he wasn't convicted of burglary.

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