Page 39 of 111 FirstFirst ... 2937383940414989 ... LastLast
Results 381 to 390 of 1109

Thread: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

  1. #381
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Theoretical Physics Lab
    Last Seen
    01-06-15 @ 11:06 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    25,120

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    There are just so many things that strike me as wrong about this story. First of all, you're going to tell me that multiple people, owners, lay in wait night after night in the mere possibility that someone may rob the lot? Seems a little far-fetched. Also, they found them financially liable based on loss of companionship and loss of future wages?

    You know, in all my time preparing taxes, I have yet to find someone with the official title of "substance-abusing carjacker" give me a W-2 with realized wages. Kinda wonder how they could determine this...

  2. #382
    Sage
    VanceMack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    54,677

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    It was in response to emotional appeal like the claim that he molested his daughter without showing evidence that he did. Or your use of "meth addicted 3 knives carrying". Was the knives even in his hands when he was shot?

    The question of what is good for the girl is relevant for the jury. And since most of us are not privy to what the jury know, I don't see anyone here qualified to say whether the award of damages is correct or not.
    So what if you don't see "too many tragic downsides"? That is irrelevant. And you just said it is not for you to say anyway. This is about whether laws were broken, or if the Law should be on the book in the first place.
    since none of us are involved in the jury process, and since there were no criminal proceedings, and since none of us had a relevant bearing on whether or not there WOULD be criminla charges, ALL that remains is opinion. My personal opinion is that a meth addict armed with three knives including one strapped to his leg is a dangerous human being. Meth addicts are not exactly famous for their mental stability and capacity for reasoned rational choices...especially when they are specifically on a mission to get money to score more meth. Id be a little interested in seeing the autopsy photos and just how much brain damage he had suffered. Wicked beastie, meth is.

    I disagree...it ISNT about whether or not laws were broken. The county prosecutor and grand jury spoke pretty clearly on that issue. Opinion on if the law should change...well...isnt that what everyone is expressing? their opinion? As to the civil award...its not really relevant to what the girl needs...what is relevant is what she was deprived of and what the father could reasonably be expected to provide. Anything over a jury award of say...12 bucks...Id say that was stretching things a bit.

  3. #383
    Sage
    Guy Incognito's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Last Seen
    12-02-17 @ 07:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    11,216

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and since the criminal case never went to trial...apparently the grand jury agrees with me
    I'm talking about torts. This whole thread is about torts. You are wrong about torts.

  4. #384
    Farts in Elevators
    OscarB63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Alabama
    Last Seen
    09-06-14 @ 07:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    26,526

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I'm talking about torts. This whole thread is about torts. You are wrong about torts.
    torts, smorts, eat my shorts.... I am correct in that these guys are not murderers since they were never tried and convicted. innocent until PROVEN guilty.
    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

  5. #385
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    05-01-14 @ 03:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    12,879

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    A shoot first attitude may sound macho to some but in reality it's irresponsible and the shooter in this case is fortunate not to be facing criminal charges.
    It's not about being "macho" or anything of the sort. It's about defending my property from vermin and scum. To me it's no different than killing a rat or a cockroach you find in your basement.


    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    The law is clear and the police have the same restrictions. You don't fire unless you feel you our another are in an eminent life threatening situation.
    That's nice. I look to the laws of the land much less than I do what I believe to be Right and Wrong. Always have.


    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    You may think it makes one sound like a tough guy but it's silly and the law is clear.
    Again, it's not about being tough, it's about how I view Right and Wrong.


    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I have taken a course in carrying a concealed weapon and it's use and the laws are clear. BTW I scored 100% on both the written test and the the firing range qualifying test. But I have been shooting since I was about 10.
    Those test scores and $2.00 will get you a $1.50 cup of coffee. I say that as someone who has maintained a CCW license here in Massachusetts for more than a decade, along with several other non-resident permits over that period of time. I have also been an NRA certified pistol instructor and a range safety officer for two different shooting disciplines. I carry a handgun on a regular basis and have one at hand in my apartment at all times.

  6. #386
    Guru
    Councilman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Riverside, County, CA.
    Last Seen
    11-04-11 @ 10:16 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    4,454
    Blog Entries
    10

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and who gets to decide if YOU feel that YOU are in eminent danger?
    Common sense is the first judge.

    If someone is breaking into your car you can yell at them saying hey what are you doing and they will run away 9 times out of 10.

  7. #387
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Theoretical Physics Lab
    Last Seen
    01-06-15 @ 11:06 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    25,120

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    I'm not willing to be #10.

    I'd rather rid the world of 9 strung-out felons than 1 of me. So would the world.

  8. #388
    Farts in Elevators
    OscarB63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Alabama
    Last Seen
    09-06-14 @ 07:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    26,526

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Common sense is the first judge.

    If someone is breaking into your car you can yell at them saying hey what are you doing and they will run away 9 times out of 10.
    and time #10 they will turn and blow your ****ing head off. I'd rather not take my chances.
    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

  9. #389
    Sage
    AdamT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    02-13-13 @ 04:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    17,773

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'm not willing to be #10.

    I'd rather rid the world of 9 strung-out felons than 1 of me. So would the world.
    That's a bit of a zero sum game, as you'd become a felon the minute you shot him.

  10. #390
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Theoretical Physics Lab
    Last Seen
    01-06-15 @ 11:06 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    25,120

    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Not in a world that favored law, order, and prosperity. No, we have to live in a world where criminals are given more rights than they deserve. If Plato were alive to see this, he'd vomit in disgust.

Page 39 of 111 FirstFirst ... 2937383940414989 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •