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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    So let's just expect the owners to sit there and watch some piece of crap human steal from them?
    Or, they could simply point their guns at the criminals, tell them to freeze, and wait for the cops to show up. Y'know. Like civilized people. According to the article, these guys planned to shoot intruders as a first option, rather than looking to see if they had less extreme and more lawful options available to them. I'm not sure why you think that's defensible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    You criticize their decisions like they should have known some ignorant jury was going to award money to the criminal's family.
    I criticize their decision because they deliberately sought to and did kill someone, which is a substantially greater crime than is theft. The fact that it bit them in the ass is just gravy.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sounds like a case of jury nullification. They weren't going to indict someone for shooting a burglar even if the law said otherwise. It's not uncommon.
    I agree, but I've been trying to avoid going down that road in this particular conversation.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    The outcome of this case will probably strengthen public opinion on the issue of extending the Castle Doctrine to businesses and automobiles in addition to residences.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    material possessions are not worth a life. theirs or mine.

    they can have them.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    see the blind man, he's shooting at the world
    the bullets flying, ooh there taking toll
    If you've been bad - ohhh lord I bet you have
    and you've not been hit, you've not been hit by flying lead
    you'd better close your eyes
    you better bow your head
    wait for the ricochet....
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    material possessions are not worth a life. theirs or mine.

    they can have them.
    So I guess that it's safe to assume that you oppose this aftermarket accessory for cars in South Africa


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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    So I guess that it's safe to assume that you oppose this aftermarket accessory for cars in South Africa
    obviously. that is not how a civilized society should act.

    some of the comments on the youtube clip are rather interesting. they sound like the deranged rantings of the savages/Terrorists in the ME. it's shocking how much some people are like those they complain the most bitterly about.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, but he probably should have been. Sounds like a case of jury nullification.
    Well that's one of the reasons we're supposed to employ it. However, criminal cases require a much higher burden of proof than civil cases. So the likely scenario was that there probably wasn't enough evidence to move forward in a criminal trial.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Im just...so...so freqin sad. this poor victim...a methhead (and you know...meth addicts are well known for their passion, compassion, and stability) was innocently browsing these mens car lot and would have used whatever money he could get for stolen goods to provide for his chirrun and NOT to score more drugs...and just HAPPENED to be carrying three knives including one strapped to his leg...but that was just in case...you know...he needed to...I dont know...slice apples or other fruit for a snack for his buddy. Im just...so...sad...because this fine, upstanding meth addict will no longer be with us...we...will...sniff...no longer benefit as a society from his tremendous contributions he has made...and can be expected to make...sniff sniff...Im just. We'll just miss him so dang much...

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Im just...so...so freqin sad. this poor victim...a methhead (and you know...meth addicts are well known for their passion, compassion, and stability) was innocently browsing these mens car lot and would have used whatever money he could get for stolen goods to provide for his chirrun and NOT to score more drugs...and just HAPPENED to be carrying three knives including one strapped to his leg...but that was just in case...you know...he needed to...I dont know...slice apples or other fruit for a snack for his buddy. Im just...so...sad...because this fine, upstanding meth addict will no longer be with us...we...will...sniff...no longer benefit as a society from his tremendous contributions he has made...and can be expected to make...sniff sniff...Im just. We'll just miss him so dang much...
    Not as sad as the fact that 3 people who conspired to commit murder got off with only a $260k penalty instead of a lengthy prison sentence. Unless, of course, you think robbery should be punished with the death penalty. Without a trial or other Constitutional Due Process.

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