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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    This case is a good example of people who take things to far...and these guys are lucky that they weren't prosecuted for murder because they very easily could have been.
    Could have. But apparently the State didn't demonstrate enough evidence to a Grand Jury to warrant a full trial.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    So an armed man broke into a car lot attempting to burglarize, where the owners decided to protect their rights and property by firing first. What's the problem?

    This isn't premeditation. This is defense. You shoot first and ask questions later, especially when you know the other person also has the ability to shoot. What were the owners supposed to do, make a deal with this piece of crap? "I'll put my gun down if you do?"...nah. Remove this scum from society. Hang this story out for the masses. Let it be known - if you willfully and maliciously strip the rights from an innocent party, some of your own very basic rights may be voided.

    Maybe some of these lowlifes of society will think twice before they grab a firearm and try to take what isn't theirs.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Stand in front of the garage and clearly shout "Well my good sir, the chase has come to an end, as it be. I shall now inform the cops and they will be here in about 5-10 minutes if they feel like it. In the meantime, my good man, I would find it quite sporting of you if you would not attempt any further attempt on my life or property. We are both reasonable men, yes? Well then it's safe to assume that you are not arming yourself further with intent to escape and/or harm myself or my family. In that case, would you be so kind as to hold up there while the police arrive. Thank you very much my good sir, tea will be served shortly".
    So fleeing = arming yourself further? lol, jury isn't buying that.

    I have done what you described above. It resulted in an arrest, no injuries, insignificant damages (one broken window). I'd have been a coward and a dumb-**** if I had shot the kid first, and so would you.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    actually OJ was "not guilty" of murder. do I think he killed those people? yes. but he was found not guilty by a court of law. FWIW... "not guilty" does not equal "innocent"



    considering that her "father" was a drug addicted criminal POS...these "thugs" did that little girl a favor. saved her years of heartache and embarrassment of having to go visit "daddy" in prison.
    Hell, I aint bashful and I dont need the legal definition or court conviction to call a murder a murder. OJ Simpson went Ginsu on his wife and her boyfriend. He murdered them. That is my opinion. These men protected their business. World of difference between that and murder.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Could have. But apparently the State didn't demonstrate enough evidence to a Grand Jury to warrant a full trial.
    That's apparently the case, like I said, they were lucky that didn't get indicted on murder charges. I hate to say it, but a lot of what determines whether a case is filed or not depends on a lot of things, it can be very political and a lot of it depends on racial and economic factors.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And if he ends up dead because he had to wait, you'd say what? "Well at least he acted reasonably and died."?
    The hypothetical is that he just ran into the garage. Obviously if he runs out and acts aggressively it's a different situation. You think the smart thing would be to go into the garage after him?

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    So an armed man broke into a car lot attempting to burglarize, where the owners decided to protect their rights and property by firing first. What's the problem?

    This isn't premeditation. This is defense. You shoot first and ask questions later, especially when you know the other person also has the ability to shoot. What were the owners supposed to do, make a deal with this piece of crap? "I'll put my gun down if you do?"...nah. Remove this scum from society. Hang this story out for the masses. Let it be known - if you willfully and maliciously strip the rights from an innocent party, some of your own very basic rights may be voided.

    Maybe some of these lowlifes of society will think twice before they grab a firearm and try to take what isn't theirs.
    Yeah...that's what we need.....more vigilantes in our society......sorry, no.

    BTW..."Shoot first, ask questions later" has led a many a lengthy prison sentence....jusy sayin.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    So fleeing = arming yourself further? lol, jury isn't buying that.
    The Grand Jury apparently did. This was civil court where the burden of proof is lower. It wasn't running off the property, it was taking up position within the property. You ASSUME it would result in an arrest, no injuries, and insignificant damages; but barring psychic power you don't actually know at the time.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    I'll make sure the next time I try to rob someone's property, I'll stand out in the open to reload my pistol. Apparently hiding behind objects to put in another clip means I was escaping or being passive.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That's apparently the case, like I said, they were lucky that didn't get indicted on murder charges. I hate to say it, but a lot of what determines whether a case is filed or not depends on a lot of things, it can be very political and a lot of it depends on racial and economic factors.
    The truth is that prosecutors rarely file charges in these cases, unless it's totally clear cut. Prosecutors are in the business of putting criminals in jail. They aren't very sympathetic when crooks get chopped down in the process, even if it goes against the law. Neither are juries.

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