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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It certainly is a possible outcome, as demonstrated here. If you break into someone's house or property, there is always a chance you'll get shot for your efforts.
    And rightfully so.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm pretty sure I already answered that question, but in any case.... It's a dumb question. The guy who shot the burglar to death is more at fault. In the law biz this is what's known as an intervening cause. The harm within the risk of committing burglary is that you might get caught and go to jail for a few years. You might even say that a harm within the cause is getting shot in some circumstances (burgling an occupied residence at night, for example). But getting shot through a door in broad daylight is not a proximate cause of petty burglarly.
    thanks for proving to us all that you in fact do live in fantasy world

    everything above is nothing more than opinion that you havent been able to back up one bit.

    Nobody honesty, logical and rational blames the shooter more than the idiot dad.

    How do you explain/ignore away the 100s of choices/facts the DAD mad to get himself shot

    having a kid he cant support
    doing drugs
    being an addict
    deciding to arm himself and be a thief
    deciding to get caught trespassing and stealing while high and armed?
    breaking into others property while armed etc etc

    LOL what a total joke. At least I i know know you are just being dishonesty or just arguing for fun because nobody logical could honestly give your answer.

    LMAO at its more the shooters fault then the dead beat, drug using, robbing, breaking and entering, trespassing, high on drugs and armed dads.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Not at all. He was armed. The people defending themselves and their property had no way of knowing his intentions.
    But they did know that they weren't really at risk, given the fact that the guy was holed up in a shed and they had guns pointed at the shed.


    I would have shot him.
    Why?

    It's more tragic to me that people feel sorry for a drug addict, thieving scum.
    Why is it tragic that people feel for someone who was killed unnecessarily, and for his family? Do you think we should have the death penalty for burglary? How do you know the guy wouldn't have pulled himself together? Maybe he would have gone to jail and gotten clean. Maybe he would have gotten a decent job and been a father to his daughter. We'll never know these guys took the law into their own hands and executed him.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    As a rule defendants do not testify on their own behalf anyway. Presumably the evidence would show a bullet hole through the closet door and blood inside the closet, and that would probably do the trick.
    What I was asking is what you'd do if you were the "lucky" public defender who got assigned to a case where two shots through the closet door before dragging him out and shooting him in the head. Especially when the suspect refused to talk to you or the police.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes, but they are presumed INNOCENT until proven guilty in a court of law.
    oops that's gonna leave a mark..... what say you now Mr. Matlock?
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It certainly is a possible outcome, as demonstrated here. If you break into someone's house or property, there is always a chance you'll get shot for your efforts.
    this is just pure common sense but it seems wasted on this poster
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    thanks for proving to us all that you in fact do live in fantasy world

    everything above is nothing more than opinion that you havent been able to back up one bit.

    Nobody honesty, logical and rational blames the shooter more than the idiot dad.

    How do you explain/ignore away the 100s of choices/facts the DAD mad to get himself shot

    having a kid he cant support
    doing drugs
    being an addict
    deciding to arm himself and be a thief
    deciding to get caught trespassing and stealing while high and armed?
    breaking into others property while armed etc etc

    LOL what a total joke. At least I i know know you are just being dishonesty or just arguing for fun because nobody logical could honestly give your answer.

    LMAO at its more the shooters fault then the dead beat, drug using, robbing, breaking and entering, trespassing, high on drugs and armed dads.
    No one is excusing the burglar's actions. But his actions did not warrant execution. Pure and simple. The guy was 20 years old. A kid. He deserved to go to prison for burglary -- not get shot through the heart.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Why is it tragic that people feel someone who was killed unnecessarily? Do you think we should have the death penalty for burglary? How do you know the guy wouldn't have pulled himself together? Maybe he would have gone to jail and gotten clean. Maybe he would have gotten a decent job and been a father to his daughter. We'll never know these guys took the law into their own hands and executed him.
    We will never know. The man made a choice, took an action, and faced one of the rational probabilities of said action. He may have "gone clean", but instead he broke into the wrong person's property. Those people are not in jail, just out some money.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    The burglar succeeded.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The burglar succeeded.
    In some sense, yes.
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