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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    And you would go to jail.
    You seem to b under the faulty assumption that I'd allow myself to be arrested.

    Though I have an interesting question for you... What would you do with a defendant who refused to defend himself in court or answer any questions? I ask because that's exactly what my response would be, should I be arrested in such a case.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    I'm pretty sure I already answered that question, but in any case.... It's a dumb question. The guy who shot the burglar to death is more at fault. In the law biz this is what's known as an intervening cause. The harm within the risk of committing burglary is that you might get caught and go to jail for a few years. You might even say that a harm within the cause is getting shot in some circumstances (burgling an occupied residence at night, for example). But getting shot through a door in broad daylight is not a proximate cause of petty burglarly.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    As a matter of FACT, one jury found a preponderance of the evidence and another did not. We can opine about which jury was correct, but I would side with the one that listened to a full trial with motivated attorneys on both sides.
    teh FACT that these guys were not convicted and not in jail is proof positive that according to the law, again contrary to your matlock opinion, they are NOT murderers.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    This is ridiculous. The burglar didn't break into someone's home. He was on a used car lot, for crying out loud. He was trapped inside a shed. All these "what if he shot through the door, what if he came out with an axe" speculations don't mean ****. He didn't shoot through the door, he didn't run out with a weapon. He was trying to hide. The cops could have been called and the guy hauled off to prison. Instead he was executed, on a used car lot, for trying to break into one of the cars. Last I heard, that is not a capital crime.

    I think a lot of folks here are just trolling for lulz. There is no way executing the guy in cold blood was warranted, and some of these posts would be chilling if they weren't just contrived bullcrap designed for ****s and giggles.
    Not at all. He was armed. The people defending themselves and their property had no way of knowing his intentions.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    So, out of curiousity, if there was a burglar in your house and you chased him into a closet. What would you do? Call the cops and hold him there, or shoot him through the door?
    I would have shot him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    WOW thats a lot of fantasy and play on words lets count all the dishonesty and spin.

    just a "car lot?" still personal property
    "trapped inside a shed? trapped? hiding? planing? waiting to attack? etc etc how do you know?
    "Trying to hide" how do you know?
    "The cops could have been called and the guy hauled off to prison." or by time they got there he could have escaped who the cops could of discovered the owner dead with a knife sticking in him, isnt the what if game fun?
    "exacted" again how do you know? maybe he was shot just before making his move?

    assumption is fun but its dangerous when you presume you know everything but I guess its easy to do when its OTHERS lives who could be at risk.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    You seem to b under the faulty assumption that I'd allow myself to be arrested.

    Though I have an interesting question for you... What would you do with a defendant who refused to defend himself in court or answer any questions? I ask because that's exactly what my response would be, should I be arrested in such a case.
    As a rule defendants do not testify on their own behalf anyway. Presumably the evidence would show a bullet hole through the closet door and blood inside the closet, and that would probably do the trick.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    teh FACT that these guys were not convicted and not is jail is proof positive that according to the law, again contrary to your matlock opinion, they are NOT murderers.
    The only thing it proves is that they weren't tried and convicted. It doesn't prove that they aren't murderers.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    As a rule defendants do not testify on their own behalf anyway. Presumably the evidence would show a bullet hole through the closet door and blood inside the closet, and that would probably do the trick.
    that's why you drag him out and shoot him in the hallway
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The only thing it proves is that they weren't tried and convicted. It doesn't prove that they aren't murderers.
    again...look up the legal definition of "murderer". for an alleged lawyer, you sure have a crappy vocabulary.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm pretty sure I already answered that question, but in any case.... It's a dumb question. The guy who shot the burglar to death is more at fault. In the law biz this is what's known as an intervening cause. The harm within the risk of committing burglary is that you might get caught and go to jail for a few years. You might even say that a harm within the cause is getting shot in some circumstances (burgling an occupied residence at night, for example). But getting shot through a door in broad daylight is not a proximate cause of petty burglarly.
    It certainly is a possible outcome, as demonstrated here. If you break into someone's house or property, there is always a chance you'll get shot for your efforts.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The only thing it proves is that they weren't tried and convicted. It doesn't prove that they aren't murderers.
    Yes, but they are presumed INNOCENT until proven guilty in a court of law.
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