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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Juries don't always follow the law. That is a fact. There is no questin that the shooters broke the law in this case. The law only excuses lethal force if the person employing it reasonably believed that he was facing an imminent risk of death or great bodily harm and if he could not safely retreat. In this case the person using lethal force administered it by shooting through a door with a rifle at a person who was hiding from him. Through a straight application of the law this would be an open and shut case.
    without proof its nothing more than you opinion no matter how much you cry about it LMAO

    what if that guy was just about to run out and charge with his knives
    what if that guy was loading his own gun(yes i know it was found that he didnt have one)

    and a million other possibilities.

    sorry its nothing more than your opinion whether you accept it or not.

    who gets to decide the threat???? YOU??

    nope that is something subjective, IMO if he is CRAZY enough to break on to my property he might be crazy enough to do anything why should I be FORCED to risk it?

    Like I said the majority of the people in this thread live in reality and you dont sorry.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What was the magnitude of threat to the guy holding the rifle with the burglar cowering in a shed?
    The man had already made a decision to break into their property and steal stuff from it. How are they to know he wasn't armed? He was armed, BTW. He merely brought knives to a gun fight.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

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    No, it isn't. You have a problem with logic.
    thanks for further proving my point. Your dishonesty is staggering.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Juries don't always follow the law. That is a fact. There is no questin that the shooters broke the law in this case. The law only excuses lethal force if the person employing it reasonably believed that he was facing an imminent risk of death or great bodily harm and if he could not safely retreat. In this case the person using lethal force administered it by shooting through a door with a rifle at a person who was hiding from him. Through a straight application of the law this would be an open and shut case.
    do us a favor: google "dictionary.com" and look up the definition for "opinion". apparently you have that confused with "fact"
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What was the magnitude of threat to the guy holding the rifle with the burglar cowering in a shed?
    cowering?
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha

    how do you know? were you there? did you see him?

    maybe he was getting a weapon? maybe he was loading a gun? maybe he was getting ready to grab an axe out of the shed and come out charging and swinging?

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    do us a favor: google "dictionary.com" and look up the definition for "opinion". apparently you have that confused with "fact"
    thats very very clear Im guessing this person is also a teenager
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

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    without proof its nothing more than you opinion no matter how much you cry about it LMAO

    what if that guy was just about to run out and charge with his knives
    what if that guy was loading his own gun(yes i know it was found that he didnt have one)

    and a million other possibilities.

    sorry its nothing more than your opinion whether you accept it or not.

    who gets to decide the threat???? YOU??

    nope that is something subjective, IMO if he is CRAZY enough to break on to my property he might be crazy enough to do anything why should I be FORCED to risk it?

    Like I said the majority of the people in this thread live in reality and you dont sorry.
    The law is based upon a reasonable person standard. In other words, would a reasonable person who chased someone who was not wielding a weapon into a shed, and was standing outside the closed shed covering the door with a rifle, feel that he was in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm? Would a reasonable person, covering the door of the shed with a .45 caliber rifle, not feel that he could withdraw from the situation? The answer in both cases is clearly no.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    So you think you should be able to rape someone on your property ... as long as they were invited?
    I would suggest that once that individual tresspasses onto my property without my consent I should be able to do just about anything I want to them, without restriction, since they are on MY property by their own choice and without my consent. Rape would be a little extreme, and I'd be much more inclined to just shoot them personally. I am also of the belief that owners of private businesses should be allowed to choose what clientelle they do and do not allow through their door. In my mind, that property is my own sovereign territory. You invade it at your own risk. If you wish to enter it you do so at my consent and within the rules and regulations that I have laid down for it.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Juries don't always follow the law.
    Nor are they generally intersted in JUSTICE, since the court system has no use for that concept anymore.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The law is based upon a reasonable person standard. In other words, would a reasonable person who chased someone who was not wielding a weapon into a shed, and was standing outside the closed shed covering the door with a rifle, feel that he was in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm? Would a reasonable person, covering the door of the shed with a .45 caliber rifle, not feel that he could withdraw from the situation? The answer in both cases is clearly no.
    no that is YOUR answer and YOUR opinion! LMAO why cant you understand that fact?
    Without being those guys and being in the situation I cant answer for THEM and neither can you LMAO

    how do they know he wasnt armed? should they wait until bullets hit them of fly by them?

    Maybe as soon as I withdraw I get shot in the back or maybe Its me that gets shot through the door if I dont shoot first???

    The answers to both cases is clearly who knows? YOU dont get to make those decisions LMAO

    Like I said, reality vs fantasy and you are living in the later.
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