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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit



    "I could've gotten him $600,000"
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

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    I will never stop being amazed at how reflexively you take up with the side of criminals.
    That's an insipid thing to say. I'm opposed to the actions of both sets of criminals. The problem is that you are apparently incapable of admitting to yourself that the property owners are also criminals.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    wow, 106 pages in and still defending meth-heads. nice work counsellor
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    wow, 106 pages in and still defending meth-heads. nice work counsellor
    106 pages and still deluding yourself. Nice work layperson.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    That's an insipid thing to say. I'm opposed to the actions of both sets of criminals. The problem is that you are apparently incapable of admitting to yourself that the property owners are also criminals.
    That's probably because I'm not so sure they are criminals. Indeed, they do not appear to have been criminally charged. It's one thing when a person or persons inadvertently wanders onto your property absent of malice, but when they are there to plunder you should have the right to defend your property without fear of criminal or civil penalty.

    The problem with you is that you are incapable of admitting that the deceased was a worthless meth junkie who got what was coming to him (with the exception of the posthumous award). Of course, your other problem is that you are habitually on the opposing side of the law-abiding citizen who is forced to take drastic measures to defend himself in a society that has grown increasingly soft of the habitual criminal.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    That's probably because I'm not so sure they are criminals. Indeed, they do not appear to have been criminally charged. It's one thing when a person or persons inadvertently wanders onto your property absent of malice, but when they are there to plunder you should have the right to defend your property without fear of criminal or civil penalty.

    The problem with you is that you are incapable of admitting that the deceased was a worthless meth junkie who got what was coming to him (with the exception of the posthumous award). Of course, your other problem is that you are habitually on the opposing side of the law-abiding citizen who is forced to take drastic measures to defend himself in a society that has grown increasingly soft of the habitual criminal.
    apparently our fake lawyer doesn't believe in the premise of innocent until PROVEN guilty. note: his opinion is not proof
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    apparently our fake lawyer doesn't believe in the premise of innocent until PROVEN guilty. note: his opinion is not proof
    Be careful, he's also a black belt in Judo, Karate, Toyota, and ten other Japanese words.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    That's probably because I'm not so sure they are criminals. Indeed, they do not appear to have been criminally charged. It's one thing when a person or persons inadvertently wanders onto your property absent of malice, but when they are there to plunder you should have the right to defend your property without fear of criminal or civil penalty.
    You would be sure they are criminals if you actually applied the law (which I've posted on this thread) to the facts (also available on this thread). They were not criminally charged because the grand jury overrode the prosecutor. My suspicion is that this is due to jury nullification. If you disagree, look through this thread before commenting further. I'm not going to re-hash points that I've made dozens of times in this thread. And yes, you do have the right to defend yourself and your property. Under Colorado law, you do not have the right to defend your property using deadly force, and self-defense was not at issue here. Again, if you disagree, look at the law and tell me why, specifically, you believe these guys did not violate it. Appeals to authority (i.e. the grand jury) will be ignored.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    The problem with you is that you are incapable of admitting that the deceased was a worthless meth junkie who got what was coming to him (with the exception of the posthumous award).
    Sorry, no. The elements of murder are not contingent on whether or not the person murdered was a nice person. I could give a **** about the robber. It's irrelevant to my thinking. I know you believe otherwise, but that's because you're not thinking clearly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Of course, your other problem is that you are habitually on the opposing side of the law-abiding citizen who is forced to take drastic measures to defend himself in a society that has grown increasingly soft of the habitual criminal.
    Nonsense. Stop writing some bull**** narrative about who I am in your head, and try logic for once. Apply the facts to the law, and tell me why I'm wrong.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    apparently our fake lawyer doesn't believe in the premise of innocent until PROVEN guilty. note: his opinion is not proof
    Neither is yours. Unfortunately for you, my opinion is backed up by facts, and supported by the law. Yours isn't. Go ahead. Prove me wrong.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Be careful, he's also a black belt in Judo, Karate, Toyota, and ten other Japanese words.
    Childish baiting. An excellent substitute for reasoning. Thank you for demonstrating your "worth."

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