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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Well that's nice. However a grand jury is not the same thing as a criminal trial. Google it. Find out for yourself.
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    nice dodge laywer

    tell what type of cases do grand juries handle????

    fact remains that anything that happened in the civil case is meaningless in trying to support the FALSE claim the guy is a "murder"

    I rest my case
    PURE STUPIDITY 1.) Glenn Beck doesnt lie. 2.) Obama is Jesus like 3.) Sara Palin is so smart & shes a great speaker. 4.) Obama does just about everything perfect. 5.) Fox doesn' t lean right 6.) Pro-Choice is no different than Pro-Slavery 7.) MSNBC doesn't lean left. 8.) What TSA does is no different than sexual assault & child porn.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by O_Guru View Post
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    nice dodge laywer

    tell what type of cases do grand juries handle????

    fact remains that anything that happened in the civil case is meaningless in trying to support the FALSE claim the guy is a "murder"

    I rest my case
    you are making a fool of yourself

    grand juries determine whether a defendant will be indicted and face a petit jury (ie a trial in a court of competent jurisdiction be it at a state trial court (in Ohio, the court of common pleas, in NYS the Supreme court) or a federal district court. an indictment requires a much lower standard than a conviction



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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are making a fool of yourself

    grand juries determine whether a defendant will be indicted and face a petit jury (ie a trial in a court of competent jurisdiction be it at a state trial court (in Ohio, the court of common pleas, in NYS the Supreme court) or a federal district court. an indictment requires a much lower standard than a conviction
    if you read the whole thread im not by any means, i understand what he has WHITTLED his words down too but earlier in this thread he made a very blanket statement and now it has changed and been reworded because he knew he was wrong. No fool here I find it VERY funny him rewording things and trying to sell his opinions of murder has fact
    PURE STUPIDITY 1.) Glenn Beck doesnt lie. 2.) Obama is Jesus like 3.) Sara Palin is so smart & shes a great speaker. 4.) Obama does just about everything perfect. 5.) Fox doesn' t lean right 6.) Pro-Choice is no different than Pro-Slavery 7.) MSNBC doesn't lean left. 8.) What TSA does is no different than sexual assault & child porn.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

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    Burglar's family awarded 0,000 in wrongful death suit O-Guru took the sarcastic baiting a bit too far and has been thread banned. Let others who are riding the line take note - discuss the topic and keep the dissing to a minimum.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true, an indictment is similar to what is needed to issue a warrant
    I know federal grand juries use the probable cause standard (most of the criminal work I've done has been federal). It's my understanding that several state grand juries use preponderance of the evidence, and the other lawyer on here (who got banned a while back) seemed to think Colorado was one of them. I've been trying to verify this for the last 20 minutes, but I'm coming up empty, and I'm not about to use my Westlaw account for this purpose. Of course with respect to the point that I've been making about the inconsistent results of the grand jury and the civil trial, it doesn't really matter which standard the grand jury used, because both of them are obviously equal to or lower than the standard of proof in a civil trial.

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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    I know federal grand juries use the probable cause standard (most of the criminal work I've done has been federal). It's my understanding that several state grand juries use preponderance of the evidence, and the other lawyer on here (who got banned a while back) seemed to think Colorado was one of them. I've been trying to verify this for the last 20 minutes, but I'm coming up empty, and I'm not about to use my Westlaw account for this purpose. Of course with respect to the point that I've been making about the inconsistent results of the grand jury and the civil trial, it doesn't really matter which standard the grand jury used, because both of them are obviously equal to or lower than the standard of proof in a civil trial.
    we use probable cause in the Southern District of Ohio and Hamilton County



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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    People are allowed to fight back. What they're not supposed to do is fight preemptively.
    You mean innocent people aren't allowed to have the advantage. That is left up to the criminals.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I realize that by using the term scumbag little girls sometimes throw a fit. But grown men should have no problem with the term.

    The fact your country would prosecute man for using lethal force against a burglar says that your justice system cares more about scumbags than the honest law abiding citizen.
    I regret that I have misjudged you James. I was under the impression that you wished to discuss this matter politely and objectively. I shall trouble you no further.
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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Lots of bleeding hearts living in fairy land. I would be curious to see their reactions during a home invasion.
    Sounds like a Teabagger talking. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to admit they are one.......

    And, this was not a home invasion - reading abilities would have clarified that.



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    Re: Burglar's family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    I regret that I have misjudged you James. I was under the impression that you wished to discuss this matter politely and objectively. I shall trouble you no further.
    You are wise to take the high road, Leo. There's no fixing "stupid".



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