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    Re: RNC Chairman: Party Debt Is Worse Than Numbers Sheet Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    That is sooooo funny.

    And the GOP isn't the more fiscally conservative party. They have ran up more debt than the dems, and we have had more recessions when a republican is president.
    Neither party gets a star for fiscal responsibility. It's a big subject with lots of cogs and wheels. Just keep in mind, inflation is debt as well, perhaps even more insidious.

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    Re: Democrats Ran on Party of Change, RNC Will Run On Brother Can You Spare Some Chan

    From August 20th:

    According to a report filed Saturday with the Federal Election Commission, the RNC raised $5.8 million in July–including roughly $66,000 in transfers from other party committees–and has $7.6 million in cash-on-hand to use for the election battle against incumbent Democratic President Barack Obama.

    The committee carries $17 million in debt.
    The Democratic fundraising arm has $20.1 million in cash-on-hand to use for the president’s re-election, and carries $11.2 million in debt.
    July fundraising numbers say a lot, RNC and DNC say little – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs


    So, in reality, looks like neither of them is managing their money perfectly. It's all relative to how quickly they'll pay it off, what their standing is with their lenders, and expected income. Looks like both of them are in a position to pay their debts with relative ease, contingent upon donations and fundraising.
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    Re: Democrats Ran on Party of Change, RNC Will Run On Brother Can You Spare Some Chan

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    They won't raise revenue streams, and will simply cut their way out of it.
    I'm cool with that to a degree. As long as the cut the right things. Medicaid needs massive reformation. There is gross abuse of Medicaid/Medicare by both claimants and service provider, though these days, I think more so the former. The military needs to be drawn way back to at least 2003 levels, yet we need to be able to maintain both a technology and response time edge.

    The way to raise revenue streams is to create small companies that can grow to bigger companies to sell to Americans more of what Americans, and the rest of the world, buys. For cryin out loud... my Levis aren't even Levis anymore and they aren't made in the US. No jeans are. No textiles at all.

    Everyone cries that we need a massive military to defend ourselves... no, we need a manufacturing base that can wshift gears in times of war and crank out the artillery as we need it. Worked very well in WWII and served us very well after in the civilian manufacturing sector long after.

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    Re: Democrats Ran on Party of Change, RNC Will Run On Brother Can You Spare Some Chan

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Razor View Post
    I'm cool with that to a degree. As long as the cut the right things. Medicaid needs massive reformation. There is gross abuse of Medicaid/Medicare by both claimants and service provider, though these days, I think more so the former. The military needs to be drawn way back to at least 2003 levels, yet we need to be able to maintain both a technology and response time edge.

    The way to raise revenue streams is to create small companies that can grow to bigger companies to sell to Americans more of what Americans, and the rest of the world, buys. For cryin out loud... my Levis aren't even Levis anymore and they aren't made in the US. No jeans are. No textiles at all.

    Everyone cries that we need a massive military to defend ourselves... no, we need a manufacturing base that can wshift gears in times of war and crank out the artillery as we need it. Worked very well in WWII and served us very well after in the civilian manufacturing sector long after.
    The military needs something to protect like textile mills with good paying jobs.

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    Re: RNC Chairman: Party Debt Is Worse Than Numbers Sheet Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    That is sooooo funny.
    What's so funny. The Republicans in 2008 couldn't match the corruption of a career politician reared in Chicago machine politics. Obama just offered to be bought to many more people and so he raised far more money.


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    Re: RNC Chairman: Party Debt Is Worse Than Numbers Sheet Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    What's so funny. The Republicans in 2008 couldn't match the corruption of a career politician reared in Chicago machine politics. Obama just offered to be bought to many more people and so he raised far more money.

    I hate to keep pointing out that there is no difference between the two parties, often pointing out the ignorance of ones own party... but...

    The Republican Political Machine in the 2000s was the Neo-con machine, also born of Chicago Politics, gasp, at the University of Chicago to be precise, four decades previous.

    There are two ways to "buy" (somewhat legally) a politician, with contributions or with stock and seats on the board. Campaign contributions are a poor indicator since savvy multinationals will grease the wheels on both sides.

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    Re: RNC Chairman: Party Debt Is Worse Than Numbers Sheet Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    What's so funny. The Republicans in 2008 couldn't match the corruption of a career politician reared in Chicago machine politics. Obama just offered to be bought to many more people and so he raised far more money.

    Accusations aside just what does this have to do with the thread?

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    Re: RNC Chairman: Party Debt Is Worse Than Numbers Sheet Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    What's so funny. The Republicans in 2008 couldn't match the corruption of a career politician reared in Chicago machine politics. Obama just offered to be bought to many more people and so he raised far more money.

    You're calling Obama a career politician and then comparing him to Mccain.... I mean, wtf, really. Did I misunderstand something?

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    Re: RNC Chairman: Party Debt Is Worse Than Numbers Sheet Shows

    You've got to love it when the people who adamantly resist ANY sort of restriction on campaign finances -- even restrictions on anyonymous, unlimited donations -- whine because Obama raised too much money.

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    Re: RNC Chairman: Party Debt Is Worse Than Numbers Sheet Shows

    I said what I said for a reason. Where was the energy and the focus in the 2010 mids? It was from the tea party and their candidates. In the primaries, the RNC kept trying over and over to force establishment candidates at the electorate. It failed to a degree that long time contributors not only stopped giving, they intend to never give again unless canidates align with their views more than estaliblishment politicians. So they dont contribute to the RNC they contribute to individual candidates they feel deserve their money and effort.

    Its no surprise to me. RNC establishment is all about control of process and incumbent re-election, not governance or policy or even candidate worthiness. Its about who can win and who can raise money. Both parties are like that and its a big part of the problem. Unlimited funds arent, transparency and morality in voting are---on both sides. When, honestly was the last time a senator or House rep recused themselves from a vote? They cant because they would never vote at all

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