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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Obama faces trouble with key voters

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post

    THE issue in this election will not be whether or not you think the candidate prays too much or too little (and the Obama campaign might understandably be a little hesitant to accuse Perry of having ties to crazy pastors - people in glass houses and such); it will be about which Candidate can produce jobs, economic growth, and shrink the size and cost of government. On either of those scores, Obama starts at a heavy disadvantage against the lead Republican contenders.
    Not necessarily.

    It has been alleged that Romney's business style was less about any competence of business plans and more about just slashing jobs to make shareholders happy with him. That would make him somewhat suspect when we need a President who will help us create jobs, not destroy them.

    Also, it is arguable about how much of Perry's policies affect Texas' economy. After all, it helps that they're a border state with a nation that has incredibly cheaper labor. And if Perry is responsible for the Texas economy then he will have to explain how the Texas economy will be suffering a $5 billion loss from ranching and agriculture because of this previous heat wave.

    Those two won't have any easier of a time than Obama will, if you ask me.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Obama faces trouble with key voters

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Not necessarily.

    It has been alleged that Romney's business style was less about any competence of business plans and more about just slashing jobs to make shareholders happy with him. That would make him somewhat suspect when we need a President who will help us create jobs, not destroy them.
    it has been alleged? Romney can also talk about 'saving the Olympics'; a situation that will dovetail nicely with our current doldrums. as for "somewhat suspect"; when your option is a sinking ship or a somewhat suspect liferaft, my bet is, most voters will take the liferaft. Obama would be left arguing that people shouldn't vote for Romney because he's a potential economic failure - better to stick with the proven economic failure. I just don't see that playing well.

    Also, it is arguable about how much of Perry's policies affect Texas' economy.
    of course it's arguable. anything is arguable. and again, this is a line of attack that isn't going to play well for Obama, simply because it will sound like whining. mind you, they will have to make it, but their better bet remains to emphasize the "scare" tactics and try to petrify old people about Evil Wepubwicans Gonna Take Youah Medicawhe and Social Secuwity [/elmer fudd].

    And if Perry is responsible for the Texas economy then he will have to explain how the Texas economy will be suffering a $5 billion loss from ranching and agriculture because of this previous heat wave.
    um. you just answered your own question? besides, it's an easy turn-around. we play the clip of Obama claiming to lower the oceans and ask him if he wouldn't mind bringing in some rain?

    Those two won't have any easier of a time than Obama will, if you ask me.
    it's a zero sum contest - and either of these two still have a much easier case to make than Obama does. Obama is left attempting to find holes in their records, while attempting to find anything positive in his.

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Obama faces trouble with key voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    I'm not convinced that a GOP plan would have been better.
    If we had matched the 1982 recovery rate, today annual per-capita income would be $4,154 higher than before the recession—that's an extra $16,600 for a family of four—and some 15.7 million more Americans would have jobs. That's enough jobs to employ 100% of the 13.5 million Americans currently classified as unemployed. In addition, we would have provided jobs for 30% of both the 2.4 million discouraged or marginally attached workers and the 4.8 million who have totally dropped out of the work force since January 2008.

    Jobs are created by an increase in demand.
    yes and no. "demand" as it is expressed is a function of supply.

    Perry really benefited from businesses leaving California. Is he going to fix the country by taking all the jobs from California?
    Texas benefited alot from businesses fleeing more liberal big-government states, that is true. gosh, now why would businesses be so eager to set up and hire people in a less-taxed, small-government state with a lower regulatory burden?

    It would cost more, of course. That's how American companies will have a chance to be competitive to increase demand for their goods.
    this is incorrect - you are assuming a constancy of demand that simply will not exist. as prices rise, demand plummets, and the resultant economic chaos and reordering of resources will create huge losses that will cause it to further fall off a cliff. I would ask you to read up on the Smoot Hawley Tariff to see what happened the last time we responded to a long-term recession by imposing a tariff to "help Americans".

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Obama faces trouble with key voters

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Who do the GOP have? Idiots! Perry is the ONLY chance conservatives have. And once again Im not voting for the GOP or the Dems. Im writing in Ron Paul.
    Any man who would cavalierly throw away one of the most important treaties the US has signed since World War II does NOT deserve to be the chief executive. If Perry is the nominee, I am NOT voting for him.
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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Obama faces trouble with key voters

    what treaty is that?

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