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53 Dead in Attack on Casino in Northern Mexico

You are more likely to be struck by lightning.

Not if you live in Yuma or Phoenix. Seriously. Cartel violence, home invasions, kidnappings, murder is rampant in those areas.
 
Not if you live in Yuma or Phoenix. Seriously. Cartel violence, home invasions, kidnappings, murder is rampant in those areas.

Not really. It is what you think or perhaps what you have been lead to believe, but it is not factual.
 
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Your first was post in this thread was clearly made without consideration for rational thought, that's why I responded.

So you can't make a connection to Calderon blaming the USA for the casino deaths and the BATFE intentionally allowing guns to be transported across the US border to Mexico to be used by violent drug cartels?

Apparently not...
52 casino workers died. You and the OP have the one first thought...it must be because Obama and the failed ATF programs. Rational? You keep using this word. I donot thin it means what you thin it means....
 
Whether you blame Obama or the ATF, or whatever for the violence in Northern Mexico, the big elephant in the room is that the cartels are fighting over who gets the lucrative drug trade in the US. It is our citizens' appetite for illegal drugs that keeps the gang wars in Mexico going.
 
It is our citizens' appetite for illegal drugs that keeps the gang wars in Mexico going.

No, it is our archaic drug laws that keeps the gang wars going. When's the last time you saw gangs fighting over booze selling? Prohibition DOESN'T work in this case and is causing more problems and loss of life than decriminalizing drugs would do.
 
No, it is our archaic drug laws that keeps the gang wars going. When's the last time you saw gangs fighting over booze selling? Prohibition DOESN'T work in this case and is causing more problems and loss of life than decriminalizing drugs would do.

Correct. As long as we have a huge appetite for drugs, yet insist on keeping the absurd war on drugs going, then there is going to be a black market. What the Mexican cartels are fighting over is who gets to profit from that black market.
 
If you legalized marijuana today the Mexican Cartels would go out of business in a month. Mexican marijuana can't even compare to what could be produced in America and Canada.
 
Absolutely. If drugs were legalized, cartels globally would immediately implode. Legal businesses would spring up all across the USA, bootleg product would be ignored. Taxes could go toward rehabilitation facilities for those who want help, physicians could monitor the health of those who don't. Courtrooms and prisons would drop 80% of their workload. Law enforcement would be able to chase real criminals, with real victims.

Prohibition against personal ingestion products does... not... work. History has taught us that.
 
It is our citizens' appetite for illegal drugs that keeps the gang wars in Mexico going.

No, it is our archaic drug laws that keeps the gang wars going. When's the last time you saw gangs fighting over booze selling? Prohibition DOESN'T work in this case and is causing more problems and loss of life than decriminalizing drugs would do.

You appear to contradict yourself...
 
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Absolutely. If drugs were legalized, cartels globally would immediately implode. Legal businesses would spring up all across the USA, bootleg product would be ignored. Taxes could go toward rehabilitation facilities for those who want help, physicians could monitor the health of those who don't. Courtrooms and prisons would drop 80% of their workload. Law enforcement would be able to chase real criminals, with real victims.

Prohibition against personal ingestion products does... not... work. History has taught us that.

Apparently, history hasn't taught us that just yet. Perhaps after few more gang wars, a few thousand more murders, another hundred million or so in prison, we'll sit up and take notice.
 
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