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    Re: 53 Dead in Attack on Casino in Northern Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, of course. Over 50 people are murdered by Mexican gangsters in Mexican casino and its Washington's fault.

    I hold Joe Biden responsible myself.
    I hold the Easter bunny responsible.

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    Re: 53 Dead in Attack on Casino in Northern Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    What about Bush?
    Yes. of course. Him too!

    But the important thing to remember is that when people are shot up in a Mexican casino it is America's fault.

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    Re: 53 Dead in Attack on Casino in Northern Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I agree. I think we should start legalizing some drugs, and end the drug war.
    Sure. That would end the age of innocent people being killed and let those who want to do drugs do so where they can be of least harm to their fellow citizens.

    That would allow Darwin's Theory to take effect and stupid people would be gradually winnowed out of the survival process. The more intelligent people (i'e. non drug users) would then go forth and multiply with a bit more security for themselves and their families. Drug runners would be forced to seek alternative employment, perhaps delivering them on a bicycle, and become useful members of society. Over the long term this could only be good for the human species.

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    Re: 53 Dead in Attack on Casino in Northern Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Unlimited illegal immigration invasions make EVERY town a border town
    That is actually bull**** and ass clown logic.










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    Re: 53 Dead in Attack on Casino in Northern Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Hmmm...perhaps. You WERENT suggesting that the president and BATF are responsible for the deaths of 53 people? You werent suggesting it is appropriate to consider the blame for the deaths of 53 people on the ATF policy?
    This what I wrote that you responded to:

    He (Calderon) can directly blame the BATFE and Eric Holder, in other words, the US Government, for some of it, i.e. Operation Fast and Furious.
    So maybe your reading comprehension skills aren't just off, but need a tune up instead.

    Operation Fast and Furious Linked to Death of Mexican Attorney - Forbes

    House Panel Slams 'Fast And Furious' Gun Operation Tied To Border Agent's Death | FoxNews.com

    U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and Mexican attorney, Mario Gonzalez Rodriguez were murder victims as a result of the US Government's operation, Fast and Furious. If the Government hadn't cleared the way for those those guns to be sold to the the drug cartels, there would be no blood on their hands. So wouldn't that make the BATFE and the those who knew about the operation all the way up to Holder/Obama, accessory to murder?

    http://grassley.senate.gov/judiciary...n-Mexico-2.pdf

    The Department of Justice, and more specifically, Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer, clearly knew about Operation Fast and Furious.
    If Lanny Brewer knew about it, Holder knew about it. If Holder knew about it, don't you think Obama knew about it?

    There are current reports that up to 59 people have been murdered as a result of guns the US Government supplied to Mexican Drug Cartels.

    ATF Death Watch 59: Confirmed: ATF Operation Fast and Furious Armed Sinaloa Cartel | The Truth About Guns

    The botched surveillance operation has led to the deaths of American and Mexican citizens. It is yet another in a long litany of failed attempts at outwitting and outgunning the drug cartels, though admittedly outgunning becomes hard to do when the US government is directly supplying the cartels with AK-47’s.
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    Generalizations are stupid.
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    The Second Amendment has nothing to do with guns.

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    Re: 53 Dead in Attack on Casino in Northern Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    This what I wrote that you responded to:



    So maybe your reading comprehension skills aren't just off, but need a tune up instead.

    Operation Fast and Furious Linked to Death of Mexican Attorney - Forbes

    House Panel Slams 'Fast And Furious' Gun Operation Tied To Border Agent's Death | FoxNews.com

    U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and Mexican attorney, Mario Gonzalez Rodriguez were murder victims as a result of the US Government's operation, Fast and Furious. If the Government hadn't sold those guns to the drug cartels, there would be no blood on their hands. So wouldn't that make the BATFE and the those who knew about the operation all the way up to Holder/Obama, accessory to murder?

    http://grassley.senate.gov/judiciary...n-Mexico-2.pdf



    If Lanny Brewer knew about it, Holder knew about it. If Holder knew about it, don't you think Obama knew about it?

    There are current reports that up to 59 people have been murdered as a result of guns the US Government supplied to Mexican Drug Cartels.

    ATF Death Watch 59: Confirmed: ATF Operation Fast and Furious Armed Sinaloa Cartel | The Truth About Guns
    Oh I hear ya. I even comprehend just fine. You have the same mindset of those people that think those poor criminals in America wouldnt kill people if it wasnt for gun manufacturers. And this attack on the casino...those people were killed by the guns the ATF foolishly sold in Operation Fast and Furious?

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    Re: 53 Dead in Attack on Casino in Northern Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I know people in Arizona, and they have said, as others here, they only kidnap Mexican American people. They kidnap people they can extort, and people associated with the cartels. They basically leave American born, non anchor baby having folks alone. The people in know in AZ don't worry about being kidnapped.
    So you are Ok with kidnapping torture and murder in your country as long as it doesn’t affect you huh. Amazing!

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    Re: 53 Dead in Attack on Casino in Northern Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Oh I hear ya. I even comprehend just fine. You have the same mindset of those people that think those poor criminals in America wouldnt kill people if it wasnt for gun manufacturers. And this attack on the casino...those people were killed by the guns the ATF foolishly sold in Operation Fast and Furious?
    I never commented on the casino attack. I responded to the frustration Calderon must be feeling as a result of the Mexican drug cartel violence and that he should take some of the heat for being obviously less than competent.

    I have mostly pointed out what happened as a result of the government's Fast and Furious operation; guns sent to Mexico as a direct result of the US Government's desire to get them to drug cartels. What part of that is not true?

    Why can't you comprehend that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Generalizations are stupid.
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    The Second Amendment has nothing to do with guns.

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    Re: 53 Dead in Attack on Casino in Northern Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    I never commented on the casino attack. I responded to the frustration Calderon must be feeling as a result of the Mexican drug cartel violence and that he should take some of the heat for being obviously less than competent.

    I have mostly pointed out what happened as a result of the government's Fast and Furious operation; guns sent to Mexico as a direct result of the US Government's desire to get them to drug cartels. What part of that is not true?

    Why can't you comprehend that?
    And as I said in the post you felt the need to jump in on...your position is completely irrelevant to the thread and OP. Reeading a headline about 53 dead in a casino in mejico and automatically blaming it on Obama and the ATF is foolishness. Why cant you comprehend that?

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    Re: 53 Dead in Attack on Casino in Northern Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    I'd go to Mexico again in a heartbeat. The scariest thing there is the way the cab drivers drive.
    Just smack him on the back of the head and tell him to slow down.

    Worst drivers in Mexico.

    Bus drivers
    Taxi drivers
    Police officers.

    The bus drivers are first only because they endanger more lives at one time.

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