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China closer to matching modern militaries

Do you have any proof whatsoever? Because all the evidence points to the deregulation of companies, allowing them to empower China.
Your man Clinton allowed secrets to escape into their hands.
 
The US spends a huge amount of time accusing Europe and Canada of not spending enough on the military, when Europe in total spends at least three times what China does, and has generally higher tech weapons then China and states that europe is not spending enough on defense. When China spends money to improves it military technology it is accused of buying weapons not needed for defense.

I see a strong disconnect here
The European weenies couldn't take Libya without us.
 
I'll leave this country if the future leaders are going to let get to that. I am going to die like that... I am not that patriotic, **** it.
Yippppeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
 
We well eventually fight a war with China. Once they think they can get around or defeat our technology, they will.

Bank on it

not necessary. they can simply purchase us, and are doing so right now.
 
Considering their history of innovation and advancement I'm continually amazed that right now in this century they're os far behind and broken as a nation.

Thousands of years - steeped in genius and ability - and they still can't figure things out. . . It's rather embarrassing. I'm embarrassed for the Chinese people.
 
Considering their history of innovation and advancement I'm continually amazed that right now in this century they're os far behind and broken as a nation.

Thousands of years - steeped in genius and ability - and they still can't figure things out. . . It's rather embarrassing. I'm embarrassed for the Chinese people.

Thats a great mistake people (like you) make....

China may be is old, but the People's Republic of China is not. At the beginning of the 20th Century, China was a backward nation that couldn't control its borders or its economy and was subject to the whims of the "Great Powers". Japan, a nation with a far smaller population, was able to conquer large parts of China and probably could have completed the job if not for US intervention.

The People's Republic of China took over in 1949 and commenced a total rebuilding of the country. Something that has gone through a couple of evolutions along the way.

People's Republic of China is rather young if you compare it with, the US
 
Considering their history of innovation and advancement I'm continually amazed that right now in this century they're os far behind and broken as a nation.

Thousands of years - steeped in genius and ability - and they still can't figure things out. . . It's rather embarrassing. I'm embarrassed for the Chinese people.

You might want to bring that assessment up to date.

As Mark Steyn points out:

Forty years ago NASA put the first man on the moon. Now, after scrapping the shuttle program, NASA can’t even put a man in space. But don’t worry, that’s not NASA’s concern anymore as NASA administrator Charles Bolden explained in an al-Jazeera interview. Bolden stated that one of the primary goals given to America’s space agency by President Obama was finding a way to “reach out to the Muslim world.”

Islam: The final frontier! To boldly go where no diversity outreach consultant has gone before! What’s “foremost” for NASA is to make Muslims “feel good” about their contribution to science. Why, as recently as the early ninth century Muhammad al-Kwarizmi invented the first universal horary quadrant!

During the Great Depression, the Empire State Building, then the world’s tallest building, was built in eighteen months because “the head of General Motors wanted to show the head of Chrysler that he could build something that went higher than the Chrysler Building.” Now? There’s a gaping hole and a mere skeleton of a new construction project at Ground Zero ten years and $7 billion after 9/11. Meanwhile other countries have been quite busy:

In the decade after 9/11, China (which America still thinks of as a cheap assembly plant for your local Krappimart) built the Three Gorges Dam, the largest electricity-generating plant in the world. Dubai, a mere sub-jurisdiction of the United Arabs Emirate, put up the world’s tallest building and built a Busby Berkeley geometric kaleidoscope of offshore artificial islands. Brazil, an emerging economic power, began diverting the Sao Francisco River to create some 400 miles of canals to irrigate its parched northeast.

And New York City has a gaping hole in the ground while the mayor frets about its citizens salt intake.
 
So because they are reshaping their government they can't somehow learn from their past? what did they do - burn all bridges and start fresh? I'm not talking about the basics of government and some educational standards. I'm talking about a regional history that spans numerous centuries - how many dynasties is that? How many changes did they undergo? Surely they're stronger than that.

In the US: we don't just go back to 1787 when we consider "what to do next - how to improve" - all the time we look to 1750, 1700's - 1500's even . . the beginning. And even before Europeans came here - we look to our native past as well for inspiration for hte future.

Just because a new chapter was written doesn't mean the previous chapters are meaningless.
 
Thats a great mistake people (like you) make....

China may be is old, but the People's Republic of China is not. At the beginning of the 20th Century, China was a backward nation that couldn't control its borders or its economy and was subject to the whims of the "Great Powers". Japan, a nation with a far smaller population, was able to conquer large parts of China and probably could have completed the job if not for US intervention.

The People's Republic of China took over in 1949 and commenced a total rebuilding of the country. Something that has gone through a couple of evolutions along the way.

People's Republic of China is rather young if you compare it with, the US
That is totally wrong.
 
I think it's hilarious and simultaneously frightening that there are people so paranoid as to think that the Chinese really are basically supervillains waiting for the first possible opportunity to destroy us no matter how illogical or suicidal the attempt would be. These people must still think the Soviet Union is lying in wait to get us too.
 
I think it's hilarious and simultaneously frightening that there are people so paranoid as to think that the Chinese really are basically supervillains waiting for the first possible opportunity to destroy us no matter how illogical or suicidal the attempt would be. These people must still think the Soviet Union is lying in wait to get us too.

tosses you a foil hat.

Git wid it or git ded
 
I think it's hilarious and simultaneously frightening that there are people so paranoid as to think that the Chinese really are basically supervillains waiting for the first possible opportunity to destroy us no matter how illogical or suicidal the attempt would be. These people must still think the Soviet Union is lying in wait to get us too.

They are so inscrutable.
 
It seems you all are overlooking the moonwalking bear. Basically it seems people here are caught between two equally misguided prospects for China:

1. That as a totalitarian dictatorship China has morals vastly different from our own and also possesses a greed for power that can only be satiated through future war with the United States to usurp its position of dominance in the world.

2. That as a totalitarian dictatorship China cannot engage in military adventurism for long without the government collapsing under the weight of popular outrage over the government's manner of rule or being forced to copy the Western political system to avoid popular outrage.

What both misguided ideas have in common is they rest as a matter of necessity on China being a totalitarian dictatorship. Since you are all so focused on this view of China you are missing the more obvious path things are likely to take. If you consider that China is, in fact, not a totalitarian dictatorship instead having political principles rooted in democratic thought it is easier to foresee that China will become a superpower without the need for any radical upheaval and without going to war with the United States. That does not mean there will not be changes, but they will not be the kind of changes envisioned by any of you.
 
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