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    Re: China closer to matching modern militaries

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    A growing middle class may stabilize China and move it away from war, but there are lots of other factors to consider and it would be unwise to rely on it to keep China from war.

    Unfortunately, I think you aren't taking this seriously because you don't want to believe it.

    China has long been buying advanced armaments they don't need for defense. They have threatened Taiwan repeatedly. They steal our nuclear secrets and technology. They ram our airplanes and then hold them illegally for weeks while they extract all the intelligence information they can. They make cozy economic & weapons deals with Iran, they get control of the Panama canal and the potential to isolate our Pacific and Atlantic fleets and buying US oil companies.

    You may not want to believe it, but that doesn't make it untrue.
    The US spends a huge amount of time accusing Europe and Canada of not spending enough on the military, when Europe in total spends at least three times what China does, and has generally higher tech weapons then China and states that europe is not spending enough on defense. When China spends money to improves it military technology it is accused of buying weapons not needed for defense.

    I see a strong disconnect here
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    Re: China closer to matching modern militaries

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    China is going to become the next super power without a doubt.
    And yet they are spending like crazy.. how the heck can that happen? You'd think America would be standing on top with all the budget cuts.

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    Re: China closer to matching modern militaries

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    We well eventually fight a war with China. Once they think they can get around or defeat our technology, they will.

    Bank on it
    I'll leave this country if the future leaders are going to let get to that. I am going to die like that... I am not that patriotic, **** it.

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    Re: China closer to matching modern militaries

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    But what you forget to consider is that that aggression may be channeled at their own government rather than towards other nations.
    Which is why they use their education system and media to stoke the fires against neighbors and others...
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    Re: China closer to matching modern militaries

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Hmm, you seem to think you know more about China than you actually know. Their male/female population isn't that skewed:

    Sex distribution: male 51.27%; female 48.73% (2010)
    In younger age groups, it is far more skewed than this...
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    Re: China closer to matching modern militaries

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Pentagon report: China closer to matching modern militaries

    China's military buildup has made impressive gains that pushed the Communist Party-controlled Peopleís Liberation Army closer to matching modern militaries, according to the Pentagonís annual report to Congress made public Wednesday.


    Can I get a GREAT BIG THANK YOU from everyone for our Darling Corporate pigs at the trough that allowed this to happen out of GREED...
    wont be long when america is going to condemn corporations for putting the entire country at risk for a buck


    Other than the loss of American jobs, putting us at the mercy of countries that produce goods, the extreme exploitation of people, and the degradation of American produced goods this seems to be another good reason to be against outsourcing. You would think republicans were lying when they said communism sucks and is evil. And apparently not all democrats are for the poor working man seeing how Clinton singed the WTO.
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    Re: China closer to matching modern militaries

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Other than the loss of American jobs, putting us at the mercy of countries that produce goods, the extreme exploitation of people, and the degradation of American produced goods this seems to be another good reason to be against outsourcing. You would think republicans were lying when they said communism sucks and is evil. And apparently not all democrats are for the poor working man seeing how Clinton singed the WTO.
    If you go back a little....all administrations since Nixon have suffered from a certain amount of faulty thinking. It's hard to look at motivations, rationale and goals from another culture's viewpoint. The US is a relatively young, vibrant and rapidly changing country. For a nation that measures its existence in thousands of years, our couple hundred are pretty short. They take a longer term view than we do. I think our logic was that if we open up Chinese markets to OUR goods, we'll sell lots of **** and make buttloads of money. When exposed to our culture and our consumer products, communism will fall.....didn't happen.

    We didn't foresee their version of socialized capitalism. The Chinese threw us a curve ball and we swung and missed

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    Re: China closer to matching modern militaries

    When exposed to our culture and our consumer products, communism will fall.....didn't happen.

    We didn't foresee their version of socialized capitalism. The Chinese threw us a curve ball and we swung and missed
    As Mr. Berra would say, it ain't over 'til it's over. China's experiment with socialized capitalism is in its infancy. Their middle class and upper class are growing rapidly. Wages are starting to rise. As they become more educated and well off they will start to demand a say in the country's governance. China's government will have a choice: either democratize or crush its most productive citizens. Either way China faces major growing pains that will alter its trajectory.

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    Re: China closer to matching modern militaries

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Pentagon report: China closer to matching modern militaries

    China's military buildup has made impressive gains that pushed the Communist Party-controlled Peopleís Liberation Army closer to matching modern militaries, according to the Pentagonís annual report to Congress made public Wednesday.


    Can I get a GREAT BIG THANK YOU from everyone for our Darling Corporate pigs at the trough that allowed this to happen out of GREED...
    wont be long when america is going to condemn corporations for putting the entire country at risk for a buck
    It's not just the corporations, it's the American people as well as their government.

    The United States has been borrowing money from China for years now and the interest on that debt is enormous. That's how they can afford a larger military, and it is the US taxpayer who is largely funding it.

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    Re: China closer to matching modern militaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The US spends a huge amount of time accusing Europe and Canada of not spending enough on the military, when Europe in total spends at least three times what China does, and has generally higher tech weapons then China and states that europe is not spending enough on defense. When China spends money to improves it military technology it is accused of buying weapons not needed for defense.

    I see a strong disconnect here
    In fact Europe is spending less and China is spending more. Europe is screwed anyway so it doesn't much matter, but Americans, Canadians, and those countries in China's vicinity should be wary of what's going on.

    Europeans Retreat on Defense Spending - WSJ.com

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