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    Re: Rep. Maxine Waters says "Tea Party can go straight to hell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And some people recognize that trivial **** is trivial ****.
    Yep. Politicians says or does things that excite their base and raise their fervor towards defeating the opposition. In other news water is wet.

    Do I think what she said is stupid? Yes. But its nothing to make a big deal out of. At most its something to remember so as to point it out at some other point when people claim its only one side that's throwing out "heated" or "over the top" rhetoric. But beyond that, is rather pointless.

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    Re: Rep. Maxine Waters says "Tea Party can go straight to hell"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, and how does that compare with a man that wrote a theme specific playbook that liberals have been using to usher in something other than what this country was founded on?

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    J, you and others use this as an excuse to not listen, and thus get many, many things wrong. I also think you and others largely misrepresent Alinsky. Here's an overview:

    Saul Alinsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    IN any case, he is but one person representing only himself. Efforts to move it beyond that are illogical and a tactic in and of itself, worthy of what you rail against.

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    Re: Rep. Maxine Waters says "Tea Party can go straight to hell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    J, you and others use this as an excuse to not listen, and thus get many, many things wrong. I also think you and others largely misrepresent Alinsky. Here's an overview:

    Saul Alinsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    IN any case, he is but one person representing only himself. Efforts to move it beyond that are illogical and a tactic in and of itself, worthy of what you rail against.
    I'd forgotten how outdated Rules for Radicals is. Completely predates cognitive neuroscience.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
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    Re: Rep. Maxine Waters says "Tea Party can go straight to hell"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, and how does that compare with a man that wrote a theme specific playbook that liberals have been using to usher in something other than what this country was founded on?

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    A list of talking points and conceptual positions is distributed to conservatives every year, so they can stay "on message".

    Alinsky has been dead for since 1973.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
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    Re: Rep. Maxine Waters says "Tea Party can go straight to hell"

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    A list of talking points and conceptual positions is distributed to conservatives every year, so they can stay "on message".
    As are liberal progressive talking points for the same purpose.

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    Alinsky has been dead for since 1973.
    How is that relevant?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Rep. Maxine Waters says "Tea Party can go straight to hell"

    Isn't Waters the nutter socialist who wants to nationalize oil exploration?

    How is it that a nutter on one side of the aisle excuses one on the other?

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    Re: Rep. Maxine Waters says "Tea Party can go straight to hell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    As are liberal progressive talking points for the same purpose.



    How is that relevant?
    Alinsky is SO 1960's. The science of persuasion is MUCH more potent today than it was 40 years ago.

    And the Dems are WAY behind in this area. Like a minor league team compared to World Series contenders.

    Them catching up is NOT something I'm looking forward to. Nor will they escape my wrath.
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    Re: Rep. Maxine Waters says "Tea Party can go straight to hell"

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Alinsky is SO 1960's. The science of persuasion is MUCH more potent today than it was 40 years ago.
    Tactics never grow old. Sun Tzu's "Art of War" is so 1st century BC but it's still relevant and still read. Tactics don't go out of style, they're just modified.

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    And the Dems are WAY behind in this area. Like a minor league team compared to World Series contenders.

    Them catching up is NOT something I'm looking forward to. Nor will they escape my wrath.
    Dunno what you read, but here on DP, there's no indication to me Dems are way behind anything. The amount of spin, misinformation, outright lies and propaganda are staggering.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Rep. Maxine Waters says "Tea Party can go straight to hell"

    Yeah and the Democrats too!

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    Re: Rep. Maxine Waters says "Tea Party can go straight to hell"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, here we have it...The more civil tone....When Gov. Perry says something that liberals don't like the call is all about civility, yet Maxine Waters, the socialist can say whatever she wants.....Pure Allensky.

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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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