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    Ex-death row inmate enjoys first night of freedom

    Ex-death row inmate enjoys first night of freedom - Yahoo! News

    Then a 1996 HBO documentary titled "Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills" drew the attention of celebrities including Vedder and Maines. Joined by other stars, they helped fund a legal team that sought a new trial.


    Last fall, the Arkansas Supreme Court ordered a new hearing for the three, asking a judge to consider allegations of juror misconduct and whether new DNA science could aid the men or uphold the convictions. Then, suddenly, there was the plea deal.


    It involved an unusual legal maneuver that allowed the men to maintain their claims of innocence. But with murder convictions still on their records, supporters say they've got to find whoever's responsible for the boys' deaths to clear the men's names.
    The death row/sentencing system is broken. As we speak hundreds have been freed thanks to new evidence. What's sad is that there are probably dozens/hundreds more who've been executed with little chance to clear their names.
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    Re: Ex-death row inmate enjoys first night of freedom

    I don't agree with you on just about everything but this I will. The death penalty should only be applied to those caught with a smoking gun..so to speak. One can not be proven guilty unless it is beyond a reasonable doubt, although remember it states reasonable not lawyer game playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    I don't agree with you on just about everything but this I will. The death penalty should only be applied to those caught with a smoking gun..so to speak. One can not be proven guilty unless it is beyond a reasonable doubt, although remember it states reasonable not lawyer game playing.
    It has been my experience that death row inmates who've been released have been "proven" guilty beyond reasonable doubt at least at the time they are sentenced. It is only after the evidence is analyzed and independent lawyers, not assigned by the state, take a look at the cases, that these people are freed. The system is broken simply because there are states who are way too eager to execute people so as not to look weak on crime. It has been proven over and over again that the death penalty simply does not deter homicide. Why we still rely on such a dated punishment is beyond me.
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    Re: Ex-death row inmate enjoys first night of freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It has been my experience that death row inmates who've been released have been "proven" guilty beyond reasonable doubt at least at the time they are sentenced. It is only after the evidence is analyzed and independent lawyers, not assigned by the state, take a look at the cases, that these people are freed. The system is broken simply because there are states who are way too eager to execute people so as not to look weak on crime. It has been proven over and over again that the death penalty simply does not deter homicide. Why we still rely on such a dated punishment is beyond me.
    I agree and I believe it is called predatory prosecutors, and yes we need to reevaluate our death sentence policy. Although I do support it but not under the current system in the why it operates.

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    Re: Ex-death row inmate enjoys first night of freedom

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    The death row/sentencing system is broken. As we speak hundreds have been freed thanks to new evidence. What's sad is that there are probably dozens/hundreds more who've been executed with little chance to clear their names.

    Problem with our death penalty is that we're not killing the right people.

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    Re: Ex-death row inmate enjoys first night of freedom

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    The death row/sentencing system is broken. As we speak hundreds have been freed thanks to new evidence. What's sad is that there are probably dozens/hundreds more who've been executed with little chance to clear their names.
    They were in prison for 18 years... I think the one on death row had a baby right before he went to prison too.

    I posted a thread on this a few days ago. I think this is good news. The trial doesn't seem like it was fair at all, but I question some things the judge did... like making them plea guilty again before releasing them. The judge also doesn't want to purse further investigations into the new evidence.

    A lot of it just doesn't seem right.

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    Re: Ex-death row inmate enjoys first night of freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    I don't agree with you on just about everything but this I will. The death penalty should only be applied to those caught with a smoking gun..so to speak. One can not be proven guilty unless it is beyond a reasonable doubt, although remember it states reasonable not lawyer game playing.
    Something is seriously wrong with their court system... This should be a massive embarrassment to their entire judicial system.

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    Re: Ex-death row inmate enjoys first night of freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It has been my experience that death row inmates who've been released have been "proven" guilty beyond reasonable doubt at least at the time they are sentenced. It is only after the evidence is analyzed and independent lawyers, not assigned by the state, take a look at the cases, that these people are freed. The system is broken simply because there are states who are way too eager to execute people so as not to look weak on crime. It has been proven over and over again that the death penalty simply does not deter homicide. Why we still rely on such a dated punishment is beyond me.
    The judge still didn't treat these three men right, so that should tell you something right there.

    What kind of judge requires you to plead guilty before acquitting you? They weren't technically acquitted, and the judge made his judgement before giving them a proper retrial. In fact, there won't be another trial. The judge doesn't want the state to investigate the murder properly at all.

    Really.. just wtf...

    The judge should be forced to step down by the state for ignoring the state's supreme court.

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    Re: Ex-death row inmate enjoys first night of freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It has been proven over and over again that the death penalty simply does not deter homicide. Why we still rely on such a dated punishment is beyond me.
    Here's the deal......I'd love for the death penalty to be abolished. Right after someone (maybe you) figures out a way to abolish heinous crimes.

    Whaddaya say?

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    Re: Ex-death row inmate enjoys first night of freedom

    the system is simply too unreliable. i'm absolutely not ok with an innocent person receiving the death penalty.
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