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    Re: GOP may OK tax increase that Obama hopes to block

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its funny, presidential candidates that support your position usually get less than 1% of the vote. Best of luck to you with your "plan"!
    Why thank you Cat. Than you very much. Your attitude is one of the reasons that I believe the nation is doomed to pass through a civil war or a revolution.

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    Re: GOP may OK tax increase that Obama hopes to block

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Why thank you Cat. Than you very much. Your attitude is one of the reasons that I believe the nation is doomed to pass through a civil war or a revolution.

    LOL! Won't be much of a civil war or even a revolution with less than one percent of the population supporting your "cause!"

    Viva la revolution!!!
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    Re: GOP may OK tax increase that Obama hopes to block

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    Well, fair is open to interpretation. Is it fair that I can be a millionaire by nothing more than being born to the right person? Or, does fairness occur when everyone pays a proportionate tax relative to their benefit of government? You could say that communism is the most fair, in that people are treated equally and there's no benefit to being born wealthy. Or, you could say a fixed tax per person is fair, as everyone pays the same. And there's millions of shades of gray.

    So, yes, I suppose I do see it fair that those with higher income pay more tax. And I understand how others could see that as not fair. How they define fair is different than how I define fair. My beliefs may have nothing to do with what you perceive as fair.
    Nope...and thats OK. Personally...I hate the word 'fair'. Life isnt fair. No one is guaranteed fair. And if more people were invested in changing their future than whining about how unfair life is, Im certain their lives would be better.

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    Re: GOP may OK tax increase that Obama hopes to block

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    LOL! Won't be much of a civil war or even a revolution with less than one percent of the population supporting your "cause!"

    Viva la revolution!!!
    Time will tell, won't it?

    Successful revolutions require active participation of about 5% of the populace with another 20-25% providing some marginal assistance.

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    Re: GOP may OK tax increase that Obama hopes to block

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It is pragmatism -- not class warfare. The bottom 50% of the population controls just 2% of the country's wealth. It would be foolish and self defeating to ask those people to shoulder as much of the burden as the top 10% of the population, which controls over 70% of the country's wealth.
    Well, Okay. I pay in federal income taxes about what one of them earns. Are you arguing that the bottom half of wage earners would shoulder as much of the burden as I do if they were taxed 10%? Are you arguing that their 5,000 dollar federal income tax load is the same as my $40,000?

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    Re: GOP may OK tax increase that Obama hopes to block

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Remember that Congresses and Presidents have basically stolen hundreds of billions from SS replacing them with IOUs.
    On this we agree.

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    Re: GOP may OK tax increase that Obama hopes to block

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Time will tell, won't it?

    Successful revolutions require active participation of about 5% of the populace with another 20-25% providing some marginal assistance.
    LOL! If we don't let you less-than-1%ers win elections, what makes you think we would let you take over the country by Revolution? This is your best option -

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    Re: GOP may OK tax increase that Obama hopes to block

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Well, Okay. I pay in federal income taxes about what one of them earns. Are you arguing that the bottom half of wage earners would shoulder as much of the burden as I do if they were taxed 10%? Are you arguing that their 5,000 dollar federal income tax load is the same as my $40,000?
    Uh, no, I'm obviously not arguing either of those things. I'm arguing that the wealthy control most of the wealth, so they have to shoulder more of the tax burden.

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    Re: GOP may OK tax increase that Obama hopes to block

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    LOL! If we don't let you less-than-1%ers win elections, what makes you think we would let you take over the country by Revolution? This is your best option -
    We shall see.

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    Re: GOP may OK tax increase that Obama hopes to block

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Uh, no, I'm obviously not arguing either of those things. I'm arguing that the wealthy control most of the wealth, so they have to shoulder more of the tax burden.
    Which we already do.

    Are you arguing that more of the burden means all of the burden? Why can't half of the wage earners pay anything, in your view?

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