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    Re: Citing a Lack of Usage, Costco Removes E.V. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Anymore silly commentary you have to make?

    oil provides us electricity, get's us moving in our vehicles, powers aircraft and shipping.

    Ever see a 747 powered by batteries? How about an 18 wheeler? Oil is, the most portable, effective and reliable energy source we have. Someone comes out with a BETTER power source, that does everything oil does and watch consumers flock to it. Driving a battery powered car works for some folks, others, not so much. I drive on average 50 miles a day, to and from work. My car gets around 35 MPG. Find me a replacement that doesn't cost an arm and a leg and works as well and I'm game.
    Except when oil runs out. And when it causes global warming, and also acid rain too. Also, its mostly coal that provides electricity, oil not so much I believe. Ethanol is one alternative, it burns cleanly so it won't cause acid rain but it will still add to CO2. Electric cars can run just fine too. Oil is easy to get and use, but its running out and a lot of it comes from the Mideast, the faster we use alternatives the better. When oil starts to run out, the free market will cause prices to rise and then everyone will be complaining.
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    Re: Citing a Lack of Usage, Costco Removes E.V. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Anymore silly commentary you have to make?

    oil provides us electricity, get's us moving in our vehicles, powers aircraft and shipping.

    Ever see a 747 powered by batteries? How about an 18 wheeler? Oil is, the most portable, effective and reliable energy source we have. Someone comes out with a BETTER power source, that does everything oil does and watch consumers flock to it. Driving a battery powered car works for some folks, others, not so much. I drive on average 50 miles a day, to and from work. My car gets around 35 MPG. Find me a replacement that doesn't cost an arm and a leg and works as well and I'm game.
    You are right that for now there does not exist a good replacement for all applications of oil, but most people do not travel so much that an electric car will not work for them. Now, as for getting lots of mileage with an electric vehicle you will probably have to wait another decade for that.
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    Re: Citing a Lack of Usage, Costco Removes E.V. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I just can't resist pointing out how much many of these arguments sound like,
    "If God had meant man to fly, he'd have given him wings."
    And not coincidentally, the early development of airplanes was largely funded by government....

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    Re: Citing a Lack of Usage, Costco Removes E.V. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by Opteron View Post
    Except when oil runs out.
    And when is that supposed to be?

    And when it causes global warming
    I thought the Nobel prize winning Al Gore said it already was?

    Also, its mostly coal that provides electricity
    Yep, and Obama is killing that industry purposely, invest in hamsters, and a lot of hamster wheels.....

    Ethanol is one alternative, it burns cleanly so it won't cause acid rain but it will still add to CO2.
    Yes, we should burn food for fuel....Sounds dumb to me.

    Oil is easy to get and use
    What? I thought you said we were running out?

    but its running out and a lot of it comes from the Mideast
    Why is that? Could it be that Enviro-nuts, and liberals are strangling our own efforts to exploit our own resources in the name of artificially keeping prices high? IOW, forcing the issue?

    When oil starts to run out
    Man you are all over the board here, and in one post....Amazing...

    the free market will cause prices to rise and then everyone will be complaining.
    Oil prices are falling, the price at the pump is artificially high due to the purposeful meddling in the market by liberals....

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    Re: Citing a Lack of Usage, Costco Removes E.V. Chargers

    "Oil prices are falling, the price at the pump is artificially high due to the purposeful meddling in the market by liberals....
    Oh that's a good one!

    Oil prices started going nuts as a result of Bush's wild goose chase in the ME, exacerbated by uncontrolled betting in the futures market. Obama is attempting to limit the impact of speculation -- part of Dodd/Frank -- but conservatives are fighting tooth and nail to prevent the law from going into effect, or if it does, to strip it of any real enforcement authority.

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    Re: Citing a Lack of Usage, Costco Removes E.V. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Oh that's a good one!

    Oil prices started going nuts as a result of Bush's wild goose chase in the ME, exacerbated by uncontrolled betting in the futures market. Obama is attempting to limit the impact of speculation -- part of Dodd/Frank -- but conservatives are fighting tooth and nail to prevent the law from going into effect, or if it does, to strip it of any real enforcement authority.
    You're damned right...That piece of crap needs to be repealed along with the rest of the progressive destruction of America agenda.

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    Re: Citing a Lack of Usage, Costco Removes E.V. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're damned right...That piece of crap needs to be repealed along with the rest of the progressive destruction of America agenda.

    j-mac
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    Re: Citing a Lack of Usage, Costco Removes E.V. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    You are right that for now there does not exist a good replacement for all applications of oil, but most people do not travel so much that an electric car will not work for them. Now, as for getting lots of mileage with an electric vehicle you will probably have to wait another decade for that.
    Most people can not afford an electric vehicle either. I think it would be really cool for my wife to have one. She lives close to work and the majority of her driving is local. Problem is, I'm not willing to pay what one costs as a second commuter car.

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    Re: Citing a Lack of Usage, Costco Removes E.V. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Oh that's a good one!

    Oil prices started going nuts as a result of Bush's wild goose chase in the ME, exacerbated by uncontrolled betting in the futures market. Obama is attempting to limit the impact of speculation -- part of Dodd/Frank -- but conservatives are fighting tooth and nail to prevent the law from going into effect, or if it does, to strip it of any real enforcement authority.
    Dodd/Frank doesn't do squat to stop this. It is stupid to place the blame on "liberals" but nothing is being done to curb the practices that run up the costs of oil. Obama's energy secretary said he would like to see $8.00 gas.

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    Re: Citing a Lack of Usage, Costco Removes E.V. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Dodd/Frank doesn't do squat to stop this. It is stupid to place the blame on "liberals" but nothing is being done to curb the practices that run up the costs of oil. Obama's energy secretary said he would like to see $8.00 gas.
    Incorrect. The CFTC has been tasked with drafting new rules to prevent excessive speculation by market players who are not end users of fuel (i.e., hedge funds and investment banks), but REPUBLICANS are doing everything they can to prevent the rules from being drafted and implemented. Shameful.

    Political Opposition Hindering CFTC

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