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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    If all are to be treated the same, we must start treating them all the same. Any and all arguements about how it's O.K. for one race and not the other must end if all will ever be treated the same.

    There is nothing either racist or even offensive that a hair care product would think that messy hair was uncivilized.
    That's just stupid. You're arguing we should pretend history doesn't exist and ignore differences in situations people are in just so like it looks neat and tidy on a little checklist? No. Different things mean different things when said to people of different races. They have different effects, evoke different stereotypes, etc. Like with anything else in life, if you try to oversimplify it you just end up not being able to make accurate decisions. Life just isn't that simple.

    Its like, say I was in the bad habit of calling things that are broken "retarded". Like "this stapler is retarded". But then I found out that one of my coworkers had a mentally challenged son. Wouldn't it be a whole lot bigger deal to use that term to describe the stapler around that coworker?

    It's just about not being dickheads. I honestly don't understand why the right dumps sooooo much energy into trying to come up with rationalizations for being dickheads... Why do you guys want to be dicks so badly?
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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    That's just stupid. You're arguing we should pretend history doesn't exist and ignore differences in situations people are in just so like it looks neat and tidy on a little checklist? No. Different things mean different things when said to people of different races. They have different effects, evoke different stereotypes, etc. Like with anything else in life, if you try to oversimplify it you just end up not being able to make accurate decisions. Life just isn't that simple.

    Its like, say I was in the bad habit of calling things that are broken "retarded". Like "this stapler is retarded". But then I found out that one of my coworkers had a mentally challenged son. Wouldn't it be a whole lot bigger deal to use that term to describe the stapler around that coworker?

    It's just about not being dickheads. I honestly don't understand why the right dumps sooooo much energy into trying to come up with rationalizations for being dickheads... Why do you guys want to be dicks so badly?
    Well, 1Perry, it looks like we're in a lose-lose situation. They're going to fuss if they're not treated equally and they're going to fuss if they're not treated differently...
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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Well, 1Perry, it looks like we're in a lose-lose situation. They're going to fuss if they're not treated equally and they're going to fuss if they're not treated differently...
    You guys are telling people to not fuss at all... that's the problem I see. You just can't handle somebody else being offended, and find that offensive in itself.

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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    Also, asking people to not get offended is not the same as wanting equality either... that's just bull****.

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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Well, 1Perry, it looks like we're in a lose-lose situation. They're going to fuss if they're not treated equally and they're going to fuss if they're not treated differently...
    Oh come on. You guys are just pretending that it's like too complicated for you to figure out or something. All it boils down to is this: Don't be a dickhead to people about the color of their skin. Don't try to find sneaky ways where you think you can come up with a clever sounding excuse for being a dickhead to people about the color of their skin, don't pretend that you didn't realize you were being a dickhead, just don't be a dickhead about it.

    I'm not saying you're being a dickhead to anybody, but you do seem to be defending the stance that it's ok to be a dick if you work out some kind of sneaky excuse... What's the point of all that anyways?

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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    We are caught in an infinite cycle

    I'm offended that you're offended that I'm offended that you're offended...
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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    We are caught in an infinite cycle

    I'm offended that you're offended that I'm offended that you're offended...
    I am not personally offended by the ad. However, I can respect that other people are, and I am not going to accuse them of pulling the race card for having those feelings...

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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    Actually I'm usually pretty "meh" about people who huff about ads that are racist or stereotype people. But this ad is just so unpleasant and ewwwww on so many levels, the mind boggles. Whoever thought that people were neanderthals who needed to be civilized by their products, then use a severed head as a bowling ball should have volunteered themselves to provide the needed heads.
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    I don't get the racism
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