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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I did look at the news article and it didn't even use the word racist. The ad involved a certain racial minority being offended, and then it turned into a discussion about the race card or something. The only racist tone in the ad is that it used the word "civilized" and if some people find that racist, then they just so happen to find it racist. You simply seem to be offended by people finding it racist, and I find that amusing.
    There are many, not just one, sources covering this story and quite a few have racism in the title.

    I congratulate and respect you for having more tolerance than I do for complaints I find bogus or absurd.
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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    People talked about slavery as a process of "civilizing" blacks for example. The notion that black people are not civilized is absolutely dead center of the worst racial slurs and attacks on black people in history.

    The whole thing where people say "well if he was white/black instead of black/white you wouldn't think it was racist, therefore it isn't racist" rarely works. White people and black people are in different situations, the historical contexts are different, the implications of things are different, the effects are different, etc.
    If all are to be treated the same, we must start treating them all the same. Any and all arguements about how it's O.K. for one race and not the other must end if all will ever be treated the same.

    There is nothing either racist or even offensive that a hair care product would think that messy hair was uncivilized.

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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    If all are to be treated the same, we must start treating them all the same. Any and all arguements about how it's O.K. for one race and not the other must end if all will ever be treated the same.

    There is nothing either racist or even offensive that a hair care product would think that messy hair was uncivilized.
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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    If all are to be treated the same, we must start treating them all the same. Any and all arguements about how it's O.K. for one race and not the other must end if all will ever be treated the same.

    There is nothing either racist or even offensive that a hair care product would think that messy hair was uncivilized.


    As long as you understand that's an opinion...

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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    I don't understand why some posters are so offended by the fact that other people find the ad offensive.

    I am so offended by your offendedness...

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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
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    As long as you understand that's an opinion...
    That's all ads ever are.

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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
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    As long as you understand that's an opinion...
    The first paragraph is the one that needs to be in bold.
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    Talking Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I am so offended by your offendedness...
    Eureka! Now you know how I feel.
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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    That's all ads ever are.
    So in other words, your opinion is more valid than other opinions and discerning opinions should dare not be voiced... ok, well, has anybody ever introduced you to the constitution? Are you familiar with the term consumer activism? You can try to brush these people under the rug and write them off, but they are a individuals and will voice their disapproval through other means... and the company understood that, and understood the risk, which is why the pulled the ads and apologized.

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    Re: Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    So in other words, your opinion is more valid than other opinions and discerning opinions should dare not be voiced...
    Well yes, I'm saying my point is more valid but I would never argue that others shouldn't be able to post theirs.

    ok, well, has anybody ever introduced you to the constitution? Are you familiar with the term consumer activism? You can try to brush these people under the rug and write them off, but they are a individuals and will voice their disapproval through other means... and the company understood that, and understood the risk, which is why the pulled the ads and apologized.
    Most times a company will take the path of least resistance. It doesn't mean the charges aren't bogus.

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