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Nivea pulls ‘offensive’ ad

I stand corrected, but people need to get with modern times. It has gotten to the point that I apply the moral of The Boy Who Cried Wolf to the cry of racism.

Instead of applying racism to this topic, you should instead consider the fact that it offended people... Simply offending a large group of minorities is not the same as racism, and you're in no place to tell others they shouldn't be offended and are pulling the race card. This was bound to end up offending somebody, so I think you're the one crying wolf. And you were, btw, the first person to even bring up racism within this context of in this thread.
 
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It sounds like you have zero reading comprehension. Whether or not the add meant to insult/offend(which by the way are synonyms) is irrelevant. That's what ended up happening. By trying to make the case that long hair itself was civilized, the brand made it look as if afros were uncivilized. Bad market research. Weak execution. Unintended racist comment. End of discussion.

I guess the 60s and was70s were very uncivil decades... thank god I wasn't alive then. I managed to be born in the decade of MC Hammer pants, pointy Madonna bras, cut off tees, and aqua net. Man, that was a close call. I am glad the 80s were civil.
 
Instead of applying racism to this topic, you should instead consider the fact that it offended people... Simply offending a large group of minorities is not the same as racism, and you're in no place to tell others they shouldn't be offended and are pulling the race card. This was bound to end up offending somebody, so I think you're the one crying wolf. And you were, btw, the first person to even bring up racism within this context of in this thread.

Who gives a **** that I was the first to mention that people are crying racism? Look at the news articles and you'll see where I heard it from. I'm trying to make the same point as your first sentence. That is, it's ok to cry foul but quit this false cry of racism bull crap!
 
Who gives a **** that I was the first to mention that people are crying racism? Look at the news articles and you'll see where I heard it from. I'm trying to make the same point as your first sentence. That is, it's ok to cry foul but quit this false cry of racism bull crap!

I did look at the news article and it didn't even use the word racist. The ad involved a certain racial minority being offended, and then it turned into a discussion about the race card or something. The only racist tone in the ad is that it used the word "civilized" and if some people find that racist, then they just so happen to find it racist. You simply seem to be offended by people finding it racist, and I find that amusing. :shrug:
 
I did look at the news article and it didn't even use the word racist. The ad involved a certain racial minority being offended, and then it turned into a discussion about the race card or something. The only racist tone in the ad is that it used the word "civilized" and if some people find that racist, then they just so happen to find it racist. You simply seem to be offended by people finding it racist, and I find that amusing. :shrug:

There are many, not just one, sources covering this story and quite a few have racism in the title.

I congratulate and respect you for having more tolerance than I do for complaints I find bogus or absurd.
 
People talked about slavery as a process of "civilizing" blacks for example. The notion that black people are not civilized is absolutely dead center of the worst racial slurs and attacks on black people in history.

The whole thing where people say "well if he was white/black instead of black/white you wouldn't think it was racist, therefore it isn't racist" rarely works. White people and black people are in different situations, the historical contexts are different, the implications of things are different, the effects are different, etc.

If all are to be treated the same, we must start treating them all the same. Any and all arguements about how it's O.K. for one race and not the other must end if all will ever be treated the same.

There is nothing either racist or even offensive that a hair care product would think that messy hair was uncivilized.
 
If all are to be treated the same, we must start treating them all the same. Any and all arguements about how it's O.K. for one race and not the other must end if all will ever be treated the same.

There is nothing either racist or even offensive that a hair care product would think that messy hair was uncivilized.

Thank you!!!
 
If all are to be treated the same, we must start treating them all the same. Any and all arguements about how it's O.K. for one race and not the other must end if all will ever be treated the same.

There is nothing either racist or even offensive that a hair care product would think that messy hair was uncivilized.


As long as you understand that's an opinion...
 
I don't understand why some posters are so offended by the fact that other people find the ad offensive.

I am so offended by your offendedness... :2mad:
 
That's all ads ever are.

So in other words, your opinion is more valid than other opinions and discerning opinions should dare not be voiced... ok, well, has anybody ever introduced you to the constitution? Are you familiar with the term consumer activism? You can try to brush these people under the rug and write them off, but they are a individuals and will voice their disapproval through other means... and the company understood that, and understood the risk, which is why the pulled the ads and apologized.
 
So in other words, your opinion is more valid than other opinions and discerning opinions should dare not be voiced...

Well yes, I'm saying my point is more valid but I would never argue that others shouldn't be able to post theirs.

ok, well, has anybody ever introduced you to the constitution? Are you familiar with the term consumer activism? You can try to brush these people under the rug and write them off, but they are a individuals and will voice their disapproval through other means... and the company understood that, and understood the risk, which is why the pulled the ads and apologized.

Most times a company will take the path of least resistance. It doesn't mean the charges aren't bogus.
 
If all are to be treated the same, we must start treating them all the same. Any and all arguements about how it's O.K. for one race and not the other must end if all will ever be treated the same.

There is nothing either racist or even offensive that a hair care product would think that messy hair was uncivilized.

That's just stupid. You're arguing we should pretend history doesn't exist and ignore differences in situations people are in just so like it looks neat and tidy on a little checklist? No. Different things mean different things when said to people of different races. They have different effects, evoke different stereotypes, etc. Like with anything else in life, if you try to oversimplify it you just end up not being able to make accurate decisions. Life just isn't that simple.

Its like, say I was in the bad habit of calling things that are broken "retarded". Like "this stapler is retarded". But then I found out that one of my coworkers had a mentally challenged son. Wouldn't it be a whole lot bigger deal to use that term to describe the stapler around that coworker?

It's just about not being dickheads. I honestly don't understand why the right dumps sooooo much energy into trying to come up with rationalizations for being dickheads... Why do you guys want to be dicks so badly?
 
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That's just stupid. You're arguing we should pretend history doesn't exist and ignore differences in situations people are in just so like it looks neat and tidy on a little checklist? No. Different things mean different things when said to people of different races. They have different effects, evoke different stereotypes, etc. Like with anything else in life, if you try to oversimplify it you just end up not being able to make accurate decisions. Life just isn't that simple.

Its like, say I was in the bad habit of calling things that are broken "retarded". Like "this stapler is retarded". But then I found out that one of my coworkers had a mentally challenged son. Wouldn't it be a whole lot bigger deal to use that term to describe the stapler around that coworker?

It's just about not being dickheads. I honestly don't understand why the right dumps sooooo much energy into trying to come up with rationalizations for being dickheads... Why do you guys want to be dicks so badly?

Well, 1Perry, it looks like we're in a lose-lose situation. They're going to fuss if they're not treated equally and they're going to fuss if they're not treated differently...
 
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Well, 1Perry, it looks like we're in a lose-lose situation. They're going to fuss if they're not treated equally and they're going to fuss if they're not treated differently...

You guys are telling people to not fuss at all... that's the problem I see. You just can't handle somebody else being offended, and find that offensive in itself.
 
Also, asking people to not get offended is not the same as wanting equality either... that's just bull****.
 
Well, 1Perry, it looks like we're in a lose-lose situation. They're going to fuss if they're not treated equally and they're going to fuss if they're not treated differently...

Oh come on. You guys are just pretending that it's like too complicated for you to figure out or something. All it boils down to is this: Don't be a dickhead to people about the color of their skin. Don't try to find sneaky ways where you think you can come up with a clever sounding excuse for being a dickhead to people about the color of their skin, don't pretend that you didn't realize you were being a dickhead, just don't be a dickhead about it.

I'm not saying you're being a dickhead to anybody, but you do seem to be defending the stance that it's ok to be a dick if you work out some kind of sneaky excuse... What's the point of all that anyways?
 
We are caught in an infinite cycle :lol:

I'm offended that you're offended that I'm offended that you're offended...
 
We are caught in an infinite cycle :lol:

I'm offended that you're offended that I'm offended that you're offended...

I am not personally offended by the ad. However, I can respect that other people are, and I am not going to accuse them of pulling the race card for having those feelings...
 
Actually I'm usually pretty "meh" about people who huff about ads that are racist or stereotype people. But this ad is just so unpleasant and ewwwww on so many levels, the mind boggles. Whoever thought that people were neanderthals who needed to be civilized by their products, then use a severed head as a bowling ball should have volunteered themselves to provide the needed heads.
 
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I don't get the racism :shrug:
 
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