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    Re: New DHS rules cancel deportations

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    It's all a part of the grand scheme. First we get the left to acknowledge that the Right has superior arguments. Then when they're demoralized from losing arguments on the internet, we plan to strike by implementing those grand schemes in the halls of power.

    Hey, if you're going to set em up, I'll be happy to hit the ball.
    Thanks for admitting that the right only cares about winning arguments on the internet, and cares nothing about principles
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    Re: New DHS rules cancel deportations

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Thanks for admitting that the right only cares about winning arguments on the internet, and cares nothing about principles
    Hey, I never said the Right wasn't Evil, I just said that the Left was stupid.

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    Re: New DHS rules cancel deportations

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Hey, I never said the Right wasn't Evil, I just said that the Left was stupid.
    That was a pretty stupid thing to admit, so you're really not making your case here
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    Re: New DHS rules cancel deportations

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Enforcing the law is never cheap.So cost is not a issue. Telling illegals that we will not deport you send the message to them to come right in and not even worry about getting caught.
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    The whole point of government is to protect the nation, not to be an insurance company. Border protection and national defense are Mission #1. Without the government doing it's job on its prime mission, the government loses its credibility. Oh wait . . . never mind, it's too late.
    These slogans sound catchy and all, but really, is illegal immigration really your highest priority for that money? We currently spend approximately $40 billion/year on immigration enforcement. How much would you propose we increase that? Double it to $80 billion? That would probably reduce the number of undocumented immigrants here maybe, what, 10%? Are you sure that is worth $40 billion to you? There is nothing you'd rather do with that money? Lower taxes $40 billion? Reduce the deficit $40 billion? Mission to Mars? Massive cancer research? Cut starvation worldwide dramatically? None of those things are more important to you than a measly 10% or so reduction in undocumented immigrants? Mostly ones that aren't bothering anybody and are not considered high priority by ICE?

    I'm just not buying that it makes sense to place that high of a priority on it. There are much more important things we need to be doing with our limited resources.

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    Re: New DHS rules cancel deportations

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That was a pretty stupid thing to admit, so you're really not making your case here
    When I wrote "Hey, if you're going to set em up, I'll be happy to hit the ball" didn't that give you a clue that I was engaged in light-hearted banter with you?

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    Re: New DHS rules cancel deportations

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    When I wrote "Hey, if you're going to set em up, I'll be happy to hit the ball" didn't that give you a clue that I was engaged in light-hearted banter with you?
    Yeah it did. So what?
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    Re: New DHS rules cancel deportations

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    These slogans sound catchy and all, but really, is illegal immigration really your highest priority for that money? We currently spend approximately $40 billion/year on immigration enforcement. How much would you propose we increase that? Double it to $80 billion? That would probably reduce the number of undocumented immigrants here maybe, what, 10%? Are you sure that is worth $40 billion to you? There is nothing you'd rather do with that money? Lower taxes $40 billion? Reduce the deficit $40 billion? Mission to Mars? Massive cancer research? Cut starvation worldwide dramatically? None of those things are more important to you than a measly 10% or so reduction in undocumented immigrants? Mostly ones that aren't bothering anybody and are not considered high priority by ICE?

    I'm just not buying that it makes sense to place that high of a priority on it. There are much more important things we need to be doing with our limited resources.
    It's priority number 1. I can defend the position by appeal to principle and by appeal to economics.

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    Re: New DHS rules cancel deportations

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    It's priority number 1. I can defend the position by appeal to principle and by appeal to economics.
    Yes, by ignoring the appeal to decrease spending and appealing to the bigots who don't care what it costs
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    Re: New DHS rules cancel deportations

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yeah it did. So what?
    This comment "so you're really not making your case here" seemed like it didn't fit with your previous comments, which I took to be light-hearted banter as well. I don't know, it just seemed like you thought I was advancing a serious point of view. Maybe it was too subtle for me and it was meant as humor.

    Screw it, you ruined the mood. If we have to analyze our relationship like this, I'm going bowling.

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    Re: New DHS rules cancel deportations

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, by ignoring the appeal to decrease spending and appealing to the bigots who don't care what it costs
    What part of Mission # 1 didn't you understand?

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