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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Hardly a study, just a PC article.
    "Do you need high IQ ..."
    No, of course not.
    We're talking Probability, you posted Apologetics with Strawmen.

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    If you have studies showing a connection between IQ and grades and/or success, you may post them....

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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes, but scientists active in their field tend to publish their work. So what you have is that among those who know the most on the subject, 97+ % think that man made global warming is correct. This does not prove that they in fact are right(argument ad populum or whatever it's called), but it does give great pause when considering it. There is almost no belief among the community of climatologists that manmade actions are not effecting the environment.
    We're arguing in circles here. I guess it all depends on how susceptible to corruption you think the publishing process is. But 97% and 88% are two very different numbers with two very different implications. If it was seriously 97% of all climate scientists saying the same thing, I might be more inclined to agree with them.

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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    We're arguing in circles here. I guess it all depends on how susceptible to corruption you think the publishing process is. But 97% and 88% are two very different numbers with two very different implications. If it was seriously 97% of all climate scientists saying the same thing, I might be more inclined to agree with them.
    And if it's just around 90%, you would go with the 10% who disagree? What is your background in science that gives you such confidence in your ability to digest this massive amount of extremely complex data?

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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

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    If you have studies showing a connection between IQ and grades and/or success, you may post them....
    Let's start with a Small more easily tackled/Pronounced one. (and then work outwards)

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    Psychometrics research has found that Ashkenazi Jews have the Highest mean score of any Ethnic group on standardized tests of general intelligence, at roughly one half to one standard deviation Higher than the mean of the general white population.[5]...."

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    In the United States, Ashkenazi Jews represent less than 2% of the population, but have won 40% of the Nobel Prizes in science awarded to U.S. citizens, and 25% of all Turing Awards.

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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    And if it's just around 90%, you would go with the 10% who disagree? What is your background in science that gives you such confidence in your ability to digest this massive amount of extremely complex data?
    I've gone over this before several times, but if there's 10% of climate scientists who disagree with you, you're doing the exact same thing. Who are you to say you know better than them? They have a much greater background in their science than you do.

    (This is beside the point that nobody, not even scientists, have the ability to digest such massive amounts of extremely complex data, and the fact that they think they can is part of the problem... but let's not get into that now.)

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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    However, since reason and sanity are not virtues Republican Primary Voters want in a candidate this year, I don't think this will help him out any.
    Fixed that one for you.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Global Warming is a Myth or HOAX, call it what you will is based hysteria and poor science.
    You know that's just and editorial about a study that hasn't been replicated yet, correct?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The paper you cited (the toast of wingnut websites) has been roundly panned by the scientific community. It's author has falsely claimed to have discovered the silver bullet that kills global warming time and time again.
    The author of the editorial? Or the author of the paper?
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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Maybe, maybe not. Evolution is a theory that has yet to be proved or disproved.
    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I applaud Perry for putting evolution in it's place. It's an unproven theory and nothing more.
    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    The thing about evolution is that it is a theory.
    Yeah, like Germ Theory and the Theory of Gravity.
    How come none of the candidates are coming out against these other nut-ball theories?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    I really like Huntsman. He's sensible, not batty, and is a fiscal conservative/social liberal like me.
    If was nominated, I would vote for him (If I can) instead of Obama
    He's by far the best GOP candidate, though I'm afraid his chances are rather slim
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