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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, scientists are still working hard on the possible consequences of a planet out of control and the The Guardian, a left wing (natch!) British journal, sends out a timely reminder of just where we are headed if we don't follow the words Algore and give him our money so he can continue to spread the message.

    Aliens may destroy humanity to protect other civilisations, say scientists | Science | The Guardian
    There is a thread about that story here. Fox News went so far as to call them "NASA" scientists. What they are is a bunch of grad students engaging in some interesting but quite meaningless wild speculation.

    Not scientists.

    Perhaps they are gory Gorists. I'm not sure.
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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    Everyone in academia knows that you cant get any grant money by proving your colleagues wrong. ; ) LOL

    It's not like they compete against each other and score point by pointing out the flaws in each other's research.

    Oh, wait...
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    The solution is to fund energy research as a top priority. Whether one believes in AGW or not, oil is finite, and affordable oil will be gone faster than we would like. It falls on us to develop the technology that will replace oil. The alternative is to pretend oil won't run out and then get caught up in a global war for the remaining reserves.

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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    This was pretty funny:

    "In a recent interview with the Fox Business Network, Bill Nye (yes, the Science Guy) explained to host Charles Payne that Al Gore's recent comments on the need for climate change discourse may not be far off point, especially when one considers the science behind it all.

    The clip, available on Media Matters, aired just after Hurricane Irene had passed the East Coast of the U.S. It is from a segment of the show "Freedom Watch," discussing a link between climate change and extreme weather.

    At the beginning of the clip, Payne mentions a Newsweek article from May that suggests extreme weather is the “new normal” because of climate change.

    When asked if Irene was “proof of global warming,” Nye patiently explained that it is likely “evidence” for or “a result of” global warming. He added that the climate modeling needed to actually determine this will take at least several months, but he seemed confident of what the results would be.

    Payne also asked Nye if there was any science behind the post-Katrina prediction that extreme weather would only increase in the coming years. Nye replied, “Well there's a lot more science behind it than saying it's not.” He suggested that the six years since Hurricane Katrina is a relatively short period of time to see a definite trend emerge.

    Jeff Masters, a meteorologist with Weather Underground told HuffPost's Lynne Peeples in a previous interview, "Sea levels around New York have gone up 13 inches over last hundred years ... the five foot wall protecting Manhattan is one foot less able to keep water out than it was a century ago. This is going to be a kind of wake-up call for New York City: It's the first time they're going to have to evacuate from Zone A, and it's not going to be the last."

    After showing a clip of Al Gore's recent comments about confronting climate deniers, Payne asked Nye whether it helped climate change believers “to always bring in things like racism” or if it “denigrate[s] anyone who might just have an inkling that maybe this stuff doesn't exist.”

    Nye responded that after measuring temperatures worldwide, “you can't disagree” with the fact that the world is getting warmer. He also argued that, “when you learn the science of climate change, in my opinion, you will find it quite compelling. And you will want to do something about it, rather than pretend it doesn't happen.”

    Payne thanked Nye, but said he was “confusing some of the viewers.”

    Damnit! Stop confusing Fox viewers with facts and science!!

    Bill Nye Discusses Climate Change With Fox Business Network's Charles Payne (VIDEO)
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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    The solution is to fund energy research as a top priority. Whether one believes in AGW or not, oil is finite, and affordable oil will be gone faster than we would like. It falls on us to develop the technology that will replace oil. The alternative is to pretend oil won't run out and then get caught up in a global war for the remaining reserves.
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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    The solution is to fund energy research as a top priority. Whether one believes in AGW or not, oil is finite, and affordable oil will be gone faster than we would like. It falls on us to develop the technology that will replace oil. The alternative is to pretend oil won't run out and then get caught up in a global war for the remaining reserves.
    Do you mean before we get caught up in another war for the remaining reserves?
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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    This was pretty funny:

    "In a recent interview with the Fox Business Network, Bill Nye (yes, the Science Guy) explained to host Charles Payne that Al Gore's recent comments on the need for climate change discourse may not be far off point, especially when one considers the science behind it all.

    The clip, available on Media Matters, aired just after Hurricane Irene had passed the East Coast of the U.S. It is from a segment of the show "Freedom Watch," discussing a link between climate change and extreme weather.

    At the beginning of the clip, Payne mentions a Newsweek article from May that suggests extreme weather is the “new normal” because of climate change.

    When asked if Irene was “proof of global warming,” Nye patiently explained that it is likely “evidence” for or “a result of” global warming. He added that the climate modeling needed to actually determine this will take at least several months, but he seemed confident of what the results would be.

    Payne also asked Nye if there was any science behind the post-Katrina prediction that extreme weather would only increase in the coming years. Nye replied, “Well there's a lot more science behind it than saying it's not.” He suggested that the six years since Hurricane Katrina is a relatively short period of time to see a definite trend emerge.

    Jeff Masters, a meteorologist with Weather Underground told HuffPost's Lynne Peeples in a previous interview, "Sea levels around New York have gone up 13 inches over last hundred years ... the five foot wall protecting Manhattan is one foot less able to keep water out than it was a century ago. This is going to be a kind of wake-up call for New York City: It's the first time they're going to have to evacuate from Zone A, and it's not going to be the last."

    After showing a clip of Al Gore's recent comments about confronting climate deniers, Payne asked Nye whether it helped climate change believers “to always bring in things like racism” or if it “denigrate[s] anyone who might just have an inkling that maybe this stuff doesn't exist.”

    Nye responded that after measuring temperatures worldwide, “you can't disagree” with the fact that the world is getting warmer. He also argued that, “when you learn the science of climate change, in my opinion, you will find it quite compelling. And you will want to do something about it, rather than pretend it doesn't happen.”

    Payne thanked Nye, but said he was “confusing some of the viewers.”

    Damnit! Stop confusing Fox viewers with facts and science!!

    Bill Nye Discusses Climate Change With Fox Business Network's Charles Payne (VIDEO)
    Bill Nye may be a science guy but he is not a climatologist guy.

    The last paragraph suggests that people are not becoming afraid of everything, and why industry is moving away from the States.

    Many other Americans seem to agree with Bill Nye and have decided not to pretend it doesn't happen. Actress Daryl Hannah is now among nearly 600 people, including environmentalists, religious leaders and ordinary Americans, who have been arrested in front of the White House since August 20 for protesting the proposed Keystone XL pipeline. Tar Sands Action leader Bill McKibben said it may be "the largest collective act of civil disobedience in the history of the climate movement."

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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Bill Nye may be a science guy but he is not a climatologist guy.

    The last paragraph suggests that people are not becoming afraid of everything, and why industry is moving away from the States.
    They're going to move the pipeline out of the U.S.? They better have a lot of pipe!

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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Bill Nye may be a science guy but he is not a climatologist guy.
    And his opinion is the same as the 97% consensus of Climate scientists ~

    "A group of 3,146 earth scientists surveyed around the world overwhelmingly agree that in the past 200-plus years, mean global temperatures have been rising, and that human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures."

    "Two questions were key: have mean global temperatures risen compared to pre-1800s levels, and has human activity been a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures.

    About 90 percent of the scientists agreed with the first question and 82 percent the second.

    In analyzing responses by sub-groups, Doran found that climatologists who are active in research showed the strongest consensus on the causes of global warming, with 97 percent agreeing humans play a role. Petroleum geologists and meteorologists were among the biggest doubters, with only 47 and 64 percent respectively believing in human involvement. Doran compared their responses to a recent poll showing only 58 percent of the public thinks human activity contributes to global warming."
    Scientists Agree Human-induced Global Warming Is Real, Survey Says
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    Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    There is a thread about that story here. Fox News went so far as to call them "NASA" scientists. What they are is a bunch of grad students engaging in some interesting but quite meaningless wild speculation.

    Not scientists.

    Perhaps they are gory Gorists. I'm not sure.
    Didn't see the Fox story but the Guardian, which caters to leftists, ran it as a science feature.

    The Left, being gullible as they are, will swallow that stuff whole.

    Who exposed them as "grad students" and where are they located?

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