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    Re: Black caucus: Tired of making excuses for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    i thought we were referring to supporters in general, rather than black voters, but you may have a point.
    Just going with the OP and the thread...Maxine Waters comments had a very specific audience.

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    Re: Black caucus: Tired of making excuses for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I was alive during busing, and survived the riots we had over it in Jacksonville, Florida. That wasn't that long ago.
    they integrated the schools when I was in 4th or 5th grade. that was 40 years ago. 40 years is a pretty long time.
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    Re: Black caucus: Tired of making excuses for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I was alive during busing, and survived the riots we had over it in Jacksonville, Florida. That wasn't that long ago.
    So you should know most of the problems were created by government. The problem with businesses throwing people out is blown way out of proportion to what really happened.

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    Re: Black caucus: Tired of making excuses for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Supporting one of us isn't that unusual. Romney has a religion problem, but Mormans are more likely to support him. Kennedy likely had the Catholic vote, but had to cross religous lines to succeed. Many conservatives have to knwo their candidate is born again. Some even want the candidate to be male and white. Some.

    Point is, it's not unusal. We need to see someone like us be successful. The more we see, the less important it is. But when the numbers are fewer, the more importan t it is. I think this is human nature.
    And your comments may be relevant should Romney get elected and Harry Reid dress down a mormon congregation because they blindly support Romney based on his faith. However...very clearly and very specifically...Maxine Waters and the CBC are calling out blacks that blindly support Obama based solely on race and her concern that they would turn on the CBC if they should go after him. No need to try to pretend that what is happening isnt.

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    Re: Black caucus: Tired of making excuses for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    they integrated the schools when I was in 4th or 5th grade. that was 40 years ago. 40 years is a pretty long time.
    segregation fully ended at different times in different states.

    one cannot compare Boston to Macon to Louisville to Baton Rouge.

    for the most part, we can assume that any black person who is older than 50 years old experienced and probably remembers living under Segregation, ESPECIALLY if they lived in the South.

    however, many northern cities today such as Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, Boston, still have blacks living in crappy communities that were set up using racially discriminatory practises such as red-lining.

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    Re: Black caucus: Tired of making excuses for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So you should know most of the problems were created by government. The problem with businesses throwing people out is blown way out of proportion to what really happened.
    I don't think so. One I lived there, in a black community. And even in 1999, I saw business refuse service in all kinds of less overt ways in Mississippi. There was a distinct white restruant, and a distinct black restruant in town. no law prevented you from going in, but I wouldn't count on you liking the service.

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    Re: Black caucus: Tired of making excuses for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    yeah. 40-50 years ago. so how does that really affect someone who is 25?
    like I said, many 20-year olds live today in communities that were set up by racist policies.

    The effects of Segregationist policies last long after the policies are made illegal.

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    Re: Black caucus: Tired of making excuses for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I was alive during busing, and survived the riots we had over it in Jacksonville, Florida. That wasn't that long ago.
    I rode on the buses and waved to the black kids being bused from downtown Jacksonville to Cedar Hills schools like Nathaniel Bedford Forrest and Ed White. Great times. Send 100 kids into a school of a few thousand to promote racial integration. How could that not succeed???

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    Re: Black caucus: Tired of making excuses for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    And your comments may be relevant should Romney get elected and Harry Reid dress down a mormon congregation because they blindly support Romney based on his faith. However...very clearly and very specifically...Maxine Waters and the CBC are calling out blacks that blindly support Obama based solely on race and her concern that they would turn on the CBC if they should go after him. No need to try to pretend that what is happening isnt.
    No, this would be more like Christians calling out Christains for blinding choosing a candidate because of his faith.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Black caucus: Tired of making excuses for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, this would be more like Christians calling out Christains for blinding choosing a candidate because of his faith.
    Mormons calling out mormons...what part did you miss?

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