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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

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    I guess that should be a clue, as to not have kids, you can't afford to take care of.
    But the oil corps, who don't need govt welfare, should keep getting billions of dollars of taxpayer money
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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    So they can't get food stamps?
    We need another program to feed people, when they already qualify for a program the feeds them.

    I don't think allowing parents to be ****ty, is a good way to "fix" things.
    Just makes you an enabler.
    We shouldnt give govt welfare to children who don't need it, but it's wonderful to give govt welfare to profit making corporations.

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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Monumentally stupid.

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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    It's not like the free meals are going to be amazing. Children who have food at home will probably eat better things with their parents. Also, assessing who does and doesn't need food takes too much time, plus it's intrusive. If everyone has access then it happens more effectively. I don't think everyone is going to be flocking to the cafeteria to take advantage of a deal. In primary school I had access to free meals but almost never took them, except on the odd day I felt more hungry than usual.
    Assessing who does and doesn't need food stamps takes too much time, plus it's intrusive.

    What?

    They aren't worried about the process. They're worried about stigma.

    But, if the process is messed up, fix it. It's not like plenty of government agencies don't have all the info plus a lot more that a parent would reasonably need to provide for free school meals. And it's not like it could possibly take longer than the amount of time (ever-increasing due to budget woes) that kids have for summer break. You could fit everything that needs to be there for assessment on a single piece of paper.

    But again, it's a moot point since they don't seem to be complaining about that.

    And, that has nothing to do with the viability of code systems. Which tons of schools use, and have no problems with.

    Children's food preferences also have nothing to do with it. I wasn't on free lunch. But I had to get up at 5:30am to get to school. To hell with packing a lunch. I ate what the school served. Some meals were healthy, some weren't. You picked how you wanted to eat. Also, with the obesity epidemic we have going on, there's no guarantee a kid will eat better at home.
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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Let's get this out of the way. This isn't about paying for meals for kids whose parents are struggling. It's about paying for meals for parents who are doing fine and lying about why you are doing it.

    Hopefully we can continue from there.
    I don't think someone who is honestly struggling enough that my tax dollars are needed to feed their child should be walking around with a gold chain around their neck.
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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    I don't think someone who is honestly struggling enough that my tax dollars are needed to feed their child should be walking aroun with a gold chain around their neck.
    I agree. If every kid gets a free lunch, there won't be enough gold for the corporate CEOs to make watches with
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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Uhm...that's what auto-pay accounts were designed to do. Parents who didn't qualify for free lunch programs deposited money into their child's account, and the free-lunch kids had "money" deposited into their accounts. Each kid enters their number at the "checkout" and then carries their plate off to the table. Non-free lunches were tracked and when funds got low e-mails were sent to parents.

    Why in the world are we subsizing people who can and should be taking care of their own children all for the sake of the smaller percentage who need the help? There are cheaper, more efficient ways to use tax payer money to cater to the emotional health of poverty-stricken children.
    Yep, that makes the most sense. It was the way my school worked, I don't know why they couldn't do this.
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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

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    Yep, that makes the most sense. It was the way my school worked, I don't know why they couldn't do this.
    Because it takes an investment of money and Detroit isn't exactly swimming in it
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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Assessing who does and doesn't need food stamps takes too much time, plus it's intrusive.

    What?

    If the process is messed up, fix it. It's not like plenty of government agencies don't have all the info plus a lot more that a parent would reasonably need to provide for free school meals. And it's not like it could possibly take longer than the amount of time (ever-increasing due to budget woes) that kids have for summer break. You could fit everything that needs to be there for assessment on a single piece of paper.

    And, that has nothing to do with the viability of code systems. Which the majority of schools use, and have no problems with.

    Children's food preferences also have nothing to do with it. I wasn't on free lunch. But I had to get up at 5:30am to get to school. To hell with packing a lunch.
    Applying for reduced or free lunches for us is one short page - list people in the home and ages - income for each. Add it up - done. You don't even need to apply to see if you qualify - there's a chart that accompanies it and breaks down 'number of people in your household RE qualifying income brackets' You can determine for yourself just by looking. Proof of income isn't even necessary except for the occasional verification process that's done at random.

    The only time it was a problem for me (in the past - when I did this) was when they required verification that I didn't work and didn't have income. . . that was actually annoying as hell.
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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Because it takes an investment of money and Detroit isn't exactly swimming in it
    But Detroit isn't paying for this. It's a federal initiative.

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