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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    guess you didn't see this:
    Students Receiving Free and Reduced Priced Lunch - Michigan - KIDS COUNT Data Center

    In Michigan, most kids in all districts qualify for free lunch (see link above). Michigan has also seen the fastest, most severe loss of jobs, highest unemployment numbers, some of the worst budgetary shortfalls, and extreme funds mismanagement.

    That doesn't mean that a state already receiving a large amount of federal aid due to poor state-wide government policy should receive even MORE aid for those who DON'T need it, especially when there are cheaper, more efficient means of handling a fairly small problem.
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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    That may be true, but there is still a much cheaper way to get rid of this stigma. And in a city as broke as Detroit, they should be going with the less expensive option that will get the same job done. All kids who qualify could still have free meals, and it would completely get rid of any associated stigma because no one would be able to tell the difference if they're all punching in a code.
    Detroit isn't paying this. You are.

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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    That may be true, but there is still a much cheaper way to get rid of this stigma. And in a city as broke as Detroit, they should be going with the less expensive option that will get the same job done. All kids who qualify could still have free meals, and it would completely get rid of any associated stigma because no one would be able to tell the difference if they're all punching in a code.
    it's part of a federal pilot program. i don't care one way or the other, but it's small change compared to 12 billion a year we give oil companies.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Detroit isn't paying this. You are.
    Still stands. This is a fiscally stupid decision and there are better options.

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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it's part of a federal pilot program. i don't care one way or the other, but it's small change compared to 12 billion a year we give oil companies.
    And we shouldn't be doing that either. It doesn't negate that this is unnecessarily expensive and the same goal can be accomplished for a lot less.

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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it's part of a federal pilot program. i don't care one way or the other, but it's small change compared to 12 billion a year we give oil companies.
    Never met a government program you didn't like eh?

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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    i already posted that most kids are eligible for free lunches, but thanks for the quote. tell you what, let's cut the oil co breaks and this program. or are they both small change?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    You know what - I'd say 'thank god for that' if someone right now was willing to foot the bill for my kid's lunches at school

    It costs a lot of money to be self-sufficient.
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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it's part of a federal pilot program. i don't care one way or the other, but it's small change compared to 12 billion a year we give oil companies.
    That's an inaccurate number. We aren't "giving" them anything, either. We're just not taking it from them. And, as Harry said, much of that money is through tax breaks every business receives.

    Secondly, we spend $79 billion a year on food subsidies (food stamps, WIC, free lunch program). There are roughly 64 million students in elementary, junior high, and high schools. For breakfast, lunch, and a snack, the current payout to each school from the government is $6.18 per child per day. For a year, that's $395,520,000 per year. Alaska receives about twice that amount per child and Hawaii receives about 1.5 times that amount per child. Then there's a seperate program for milk.

    In 2007, the program cost us $8.7 billion to run. So if you deduct the $395 million in actual school reimbursement, the government spends $8.35 billion a year administering athe free lunch program. That means the government only spends about 4% of it's total budget directly on the students who need the food. Do you think 4% efficiency is enough justification to spend MORE money on providing free food for children who don't need free food?

    You can bring in unrelated policy all day, but let's focus on the issue here.
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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    You know what - I'd say 'thank god for that' if someone right now was willing to foot the bill for my kid's lunches at school

    It costs a lot of money to be self-sufficient.
    I guess that should be a clue, as to not have kids, you can't afford to take care of.
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